I wonder why Posie is sharing this story about allegedly homophobic Christians?

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She's posted it without comment, but I can only assume it's because she approves of the removal of the app. After all the story has no mention of transgenderism, the concern is that the app implied that being gay is a 'sickness' and a 'sin'. The original petition against the app (there's a link in the story) also only talks about gay people, absolutely nothing about transgenderism.

www.theblaze.com/news/apple-yanks-christian-ministry-app-from-store-following-complaints-from-lgbt-activists?fbclid=IwAR3H84R8lOSruEMK1DWEGSNRwJFAtsFpmfh8Wx4RUez6G04fXTMsUku3mcM&utm_campaign=theblaze&utm_content=buffera7f63&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com

hese parents are entirely reasonable to protest about their kids being taught about diverse forms of relationships.

You have every right to disagree and to be disgusted at the protest.

But yes, they have every right to protest.

anti?

1. Have you asked on Facebook...or do you have any friends that could ask for you? Just seems a bit easier

Id ask for you but im not on Facebook

2. what would you like to happen with these threads...i just dont feel you want a debate

3. if we all say we hate posie and she is wronger than a wrong thing in wrongsville would you go away?

I dont have much of an opinion but im happy to say i do if it helps at all

I support Posie’s right to free speech. Doesn’t mean I agree with everything she says. This isn’t hard.

okay, maybe I am just imagining it all then and these parents are entirely reasonable to protest about their kids being taught about diverse forms of relationships

That comment makes no sense- you are combining 2 completely separate things together.

Foist is a very strange word.

I support Posie’s right to free speech. Doesn’t mean I agree with everything she says. This isn’t hard.

But she is THE leader!

That comment makes no sense- you are combining 2 completely separate things together.

No I am not.
My point- these parents are hypocrites because heterosexuality and heterosexual relationships are taught as normal and as future expectations for kids before they can even talk. But when someone wants to teach about other relationships, it might harm children unless they are old enough to understand.
Response on here: no, heterosexuality is never promoted as a future expectation for young kids. We have never heard anyone talk like that.

So i was saying, maybe I am imagining the expectations about heterosexuality then.

It is worth looking at both the books by Andrew Moffat & links & lesson plans promoted.
Despite being framed around the Equality Act where sex is one of the protected characteristics, he seems to conflate and prioritise gender/ gender identity so little focus on challenging sexism.
There is a need for nuance rather than the football match approach of chosing one of two sides. Whilst much about the program is good, it needs careful informed scrutiny. Similarly, the concerns of the parents protesting need careful consideration.
Children and especially girls are caught between ideologies.

www.equalitiesprimary.com/resources.html

from links:
"Stonewall . Excellent resource, well worth keeping up to date with."
www.equalitiesprimary.com/equalities-links.html

As I said before you seem to mix in very strange circles socially and at work. I can't help you with that but I have never come across anyone talking like this I am talking about Mum 1 saying to Mum 2 'awww bless, this is little Freddie's girlfriend from nursery' or 'little Johnny's going to be a heartbreaker when he grows up- all the girls at nursery love him' or 'little Billy and little Olivia are going to get married when they grow up'

Thanks, R0wantrees, I will have a look at those. It may well be nuanced, but I can't help but notice that the signs and leaflets talk primarily about 'homosexuality' and that concerns me. Maybe I am being oversensitive about it, but all I see is rank hypocrisy there.

It's a shame this thread was scribbled on.

There's an important point about the post.

How far does one (protected) group get to circumscribe another (protected) group?

Because the (larger, less oppressed?) group has had to withdraw (some) services previously offered because it was exclusionary of another (smaller, more oppressed) group.

The principle at won out there is now being applied to other groups. And those in the (larger) group like it as little as the religious organsations did.

Funkyfunkybeat12

The nuanced position which is informed by the needs of the children (especially girls) will be between the ideologies espoused.

It will also require engagement with all parties.

Marguerita I suspect that I don't mix in strange circles at all and that, for whatever reason, you are closing your eyes to the very different ways that heterosexuality and same-sex attraction are still treated in our society. The former is normal, harmless and innocuous whereas the latter is deviant and not suitable for children unless they are over a certain age.

Here's a picture of a freaking babygro. But no, never ever happens.

if we all say we hate posie and she is wronger than a wrong thing in wrongsville would you go away?

I dont have much of an opinion but im happy to say i do if it helps at all

I suspect that I don't mix in strange circles at all and that, for whatever reason, you are closing your eyes

I will repeat
sexualising anything to do with children is wrong.

It's also bright pink funk do you think we here on the Feminism board are they type of people this kind of thing is aimed at?
Or do you think it's passed us by because we don't mix in the same circles?

funky

Just because non of my friendship groups say stuff like that and ive never seen that baby grow does not mean that i dont believe it happens

Youve said it happens in your friendship groups and i can understand why you would be annoyed by that

Ive always tried to say boyfriend or girlfriend to all of mine from quite early on when they started takking about this stuff

How far does one (protected) group get to circumscribe another (protected) group?

Does this mean how far do homosexuals get to circumscribe Muslims and how far do Muslims get to circumscribe homosexuals?
Because my answer is not at all on either side. And there are people who are both!

captain

Thise baby grows certainly weren't around when my children were that age

Though i do remember being horrified by some dresses when looking for a party dress for then 2 year old dd

And yes I appreciate buying dresses makes me a bad feminist to some but she looked so gosh darned adorable

Thanks for those links R0. I agree that's there doesn't seem to be a great deal in those lesson plans about sexism.

Children and especially girls are caught between ideologies.

True.

I appreciate buying dresses makes me a bad feminist

Does it?

I've only dripped my toe in over the last year.

Just because non of my friendship groups say stuff like that and ive never seen that baby grow does not mean that i dont believe it happens

For fucks sake. Excuse the swearing and rudeness but I mean obviously I am talking about the fact that it happens rather than whether some random person on an internet forum has friends who say it. The response I got from Marguerite and Captain was that I mixed in weird circles, which sort of implies that it's not a thing, right?

I am talking about the fact that it happens, it is normalised and it is pervasive. If you haven't heard or seen it happen, great for you. The point is that it does happen and it will be happening at the school where these parents are protesting. Yet they choose only to see a problem when it comes to same-sex relationships.

Well OP, I think your posting here is making a difference. I'm now even more convinced that "antifa" is a grouping for authoritarians, thought police, grievance mongers, bullies, and thugs.

However this plays out, let's hope that the antifa fanatics are kept on the fringes. Letting them get any control of anything would lead to discrimination and individuals being targeted for harm.

Thats why i said to some captain

Its been my experience that the vast majority of feminists dont give a shiny shit

I do remember being told by a friend that i had set feminism back 100 years because i dont put petrol in the car

The response I got from Marguerite and Captain was that I mixed in weird circles, which sort of implies that it's not a thing, right?

No it means in answer to your question of "have you never seen this" we haven't seen it and you mix in different circles.

Dont you for fucks sake me!

Im agreeing with you!