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I wonder why Posie is sharing this story about allegedly homophobic Christians?

166 replies

antifa · 17/02/2019 00:03

She's posted it without comment, but I can only assume it's because she approves of the removal of the app. After all the story has no mention of transgenderism, the concern is that the app implied that being gay is a 'sickness' and a 'sin'. The original petition against the app (there's a link in the story) also only talks about gay people, absolutely nothing about transgenderism.

www.theblaze.com/news/apple-yanks-christian-ministry-app-from-store-following-complaints-from-lgbt-activists?fbclid=IwAR3H84R8lOSruEMK1DWEGSNRwJFAtsFpmfh8Wx4RUez6G04fXTMsUku3mcM&utm_campaign=theblaze&utm_content=buffera7f63&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com

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MargueritaPink · 17/02/2019 10:03

It's totally socially acceptable to talk about how your 6-month old son has a 'girlfriend' and how yours and your friend's baby are going to get married when they're older and to buy 'bridal Barbie' for your 4 year old

You must mix with some really strange people Funkyfunkybeat12. I've never come across anyone talking or behaving like this.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 17/02/2019 10:05

As though one of MN’s top froth points going back for at least a decade isn’t about people overegging baby/toddler/childhood friendships into something romantic.

Are you implying they are clueless about the site?Shock

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 17/02/2019 10:05

and clueless about children in general

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 17/02/2019 10:11

You must mix with some really strange people Funkyfunkybeat12. I've never come across anyone talking or behaving like this.

Never? Maybe I do mix with strange people. Have people seriously never come across people joking about their baby/toddler kids' girlfriends/boyfriends or their future husbands/wives?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 17/02/2019 10:12

ave people seriously never come across people joking about their baby/toddler kids' girlfriends/boyfriends or their future husbands/wives?

No, And a lot of people on here are actually in same sex relationships.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 17/02/2019 10:19

How many people do you know who have joked about arranged marriage?

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 17/02/2019 10:20

No, And a lot of people on here are actually in same sex relationships.

Right, same here. My point is the hypocrisy of getting outraged over gay relationships being 'rammed down children's throats' at school, when heterosexual relationships are rammed down even earlier. I think kids should be taught about a range of relationships and families.

I am just surprised that others have not noticed sexualisation of kids and innocuous joking about marriage and relationships re kids who can't even talk yet.

Makes me think of Hannah Gadsby's show when she was talking about how her mum told her of how bad she felt that she had raised Hannah as if she was straight, even though she knew deep down she wasn't. The message that there is only one acceptable form of relationship can have serious repercussions throughout life as people struggle with internalised homophobia.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 17/02/2019 10:22

How many people do you know who have joked about arranged marriage?

Errr. How do you mean? I am not part of a culture that practices arranged marriage. I cannot be certain that jokes of that kind don't take place though.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 17/02/2019 10:23

Errr. How do you mean?

This is what you were saying previously.

MargueritaPink · 17/02/2019 10:23

Never? Maybe I do mix with strange people. Have people seriously never come across people joking about their baby/toddler kids' girlfriends/boyfriends or their future husbands/wives?

Nope- I've never come across anyone behaving like this.

MargueritaPink · 17/02/2019 10:25

how many people do you know who have joked about arranged marriage?

None. I suggest you try keeping better company Funkyfunkybeat12

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 17/02/2019 10:25

Have people seriously never come across people joking about their baby/toddler kids' girlfriends/boyfriends or their future husbands/wives?

No, i've never seen anyone joke about arranged marriage.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 17/02/2019 10:26

CaptainKirks

I am not sure if our wires are crossed. My point is that the parents protesting about kids being taught about gay relationships (and those who support them) are hypocrites. Why do you have to be older to learn about gay relationships when heterosexual relationships are foisted on children before they can talk and nobody raises an eyebrow?

I am surprised that people have not noticed this hypocrisy, but maybe the people I associate with or see on social media are just weird and that in the real world, kids are not taught or told about adult relationships of any kind until they are at secondary school.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 17/02/2019 10:28

heterosexual relationships are foisted on children before they can talk and nobody raises an eyebrow?

I've not seen anyone force heterosexual relationships on children too young to talk.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 17/02/2019 10:29

No, i've never seen anyone joke about arranged marriage.

That is not arranged marriage ffs. Not in the sense that I understand it anyway. I am talking about Mum 1 saying to Mum 2 'awww bless, this is little Freddie's girlfriend from nursery' or 'little Johnny's going to be a heartbreaker when he grows up- all the girls at nursery love him' or 'little Billy and little Olivia are going to get married when they grow up'.

No? Maybe just me. It raises my hackles every time I hear it.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 17/02/2019 10:31

'little Billy and little Olivia are going to get married when they grow up'

No, I've heard children say they are going to marry each other / their mum / their dog, but this isn't the same thing is it.

I've never, not once seen parents instigate it.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 17/02/2019 10:32

I've not seen anyone force heterosexual relationships on children too young to talk.

I am wondering whether you are wilfully trying to misunderstand me and I am not sure why. I am not talking about these kids having relationships. I am talking about how, from birth, they are taught that the norm is heterosexuality, especially married heterosexuality. But if anyone wants to talk about other forms of relationships, then that is harmful unless the kids are old enough to understand.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 17/02/2019 10:33

I've never, not once seen parents instigate it.

You're lucky. Sadly it does happen Sad . Including from parents with more than enough intelligence to know a lot better.

MargueritaPink · 17/02/2019 10:34

when heterosexual relationships are foisted on children before they can talk and nobody raises an eyebrow?

What a load of rubbish. The great majority of children are still born to heterosexual parents in a heterosexual couple. Heterosexuality is not "foisted on them" because their parents are heterosexual any more than homosexuality is foisted on the small number of children who have homosexual parents.

To extrapolate from that that parents are talking about 6 month old babies having boyfriends is a utter nonsense.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 17/02/2019 10:34

I am talking about how, from birth, they are taught that the norm is heterosexuality, especially married heterosexuality.

I don't think this is true is it. Children see all kinds of different families, unmarried, married, single parents, same sex parents, grandparents raising their friends...
Step parents...

It's all so normal these days.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 17/02/2019 10:34

bernard

When my children were little we used to put betty crocker chocolate fudge icing on digestives and then put chocolate chios on top

They loved it...ok we now have to roll them to school but they loved it

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 17/02/2019 10:36

You would have to be totally isolated from any other children for them not to see that all families are different.

MargueritaPink · 17/02/2019 10:36

I am talking about Mum 1 saying to Mum 2 'awww bless, this is little Freddie's girlfriend from nursery' or 'little Johnny's going to be a heartbreaker when he grows up- all the girls at nursery love him' or 'little Billy and little Olivia are going to get married when they grow up'.

Again I think you need to look at the company you keep Funkyfunkybeat12. I've never heard anyone talking like this.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 17/02/2019 10:38

Sad okay, maybe I am just imagining it all then and these parents are entirely reasonable to protest about their kids being taught about diverse forms of relationships.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 17/02/2019 10:39

Again I think you need to look at the company you keep Funkyfunkybeat12. I've never heard anyone talking like this.

You're lucky. Hard to get away from it when it's friends of friends or work colleagues though.

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