Grand tour

[thenightsky]

Lovely little GC moment. Surely nobody would suddenly go 'oh, I just remembered I'm a woman so I need to go to a women's prison...oh look, my vagina has gone all stiff'.

Are we talking Jeremy Clarkson's Grand Tour?

Yes... DH and DS were watching this week's grand tour on amazon and my ears pricked up at one point when they started discussing the utter stupidity of putting men into women's prisons. So glad this now being mentioned openly.

“oh, I just remembered I'm a woman so I need to go to a women's prison...oh look, my vagina has gone all stiff'.”

Clarkson I presume?

Sometimes the-men-who-don’t-give-a-shit speak the truth that others fear to utter. Like Piers Morgan on this topic.

See, Clarkson annoys me. He's hugely intelligent and a superb writer, yet he carries on with the tedious bear baiting nonsense that has made him famous. So when he says something truly incisive (and he does, regularly) there's no benefit to it because it can be dismissed as the rantings of a bigot.

Good work peak transing the nations petrolheads though, I suspect it wouldn't take much.

Actually it was Hammond who said it.

I would hazard a guess that the kind of men that watch Grand Tour are already gender critical.

Good on Hammond. Not sure what the viewing figures are like, but shows well known figures are aware of the madness.

I always thought it might be, say, Caitlin Moran who said sthg (I'll be waiting for hell to freeze over first I think) but I'll take Hammond!

I would hazard a guess that the kind of men that watch Grand Tour are already gender critical.

Most of the public are.

Wait, what? And Hammond isn’t being hounded on Twitter for being a transphobic bigot? Colour me surprised.

MorrisZapp totally agree he is really frustrating. Really intelligent and incisive and knows how his audience ticks. But prattish idiot too. Top Gear programme on that tiny 1960s car is one of my favourite of all time.

Most of the public are.

Very true.

Having Clarkson, Morgan and Hopkins support GC thinking doesn’t help me when I am speaking to young people about this. In fact, it’s a huge problem.

Quite. Like when the young person you're talking to about, say, crime stats or yet another person getting visited by the police for misgendering on Twitter says 'Oh, it sounds as if you've been reading the Daily Mail.'

The cherry on the cake for the TRAs is Posy's US trip where she was palling with fundies, and that vacuous op-ed in the New York Times. Proof that we are all right-wing nutjobs! Magically, overnight! But I suppose if you're used to magical thinking you can accept that left wing people can be brainwashed by the likes of the Daily Mail.

It's an uphill struggle and I do sometimes question myself. (Always give the same answer, though.)

See, Clarkson annoys me. He's hugely intelligent and a superb writer, yet he carries on with the tedious bear baiting nonsense that has made him famous

Years ago a number of celebrities did TV programs for the greatest Briton (or something like that) and Clarkson's one on Brunel was fantastic - he was calm and interesting - rather than the boorish thing he uses for Grand Tour

and like Jonathan Ross - who is an excellent interviewer, but sticks to his puerile persona so he only uses it on celebrities.