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Article in Dundee Courier about assault of 10 year old girl in supermarket toilets

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howonearthdidwegethere · 02/02/2019 10:25

The original article was very odd in that it completely avoiding naming the sex of the perpetrator. Well, guess what?

Never happens, of course.

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/819644/mum-of-supermarket-toilet-sex-assault-victim-warns-freed-attacker-could-strike-again/?fbclid=IwAR1BjeZ0GLBEa4iRDzUXAABAzAkHHl3HBdfac2NqBfN-JyKO6GYyw1l1FcY

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LangCleg · 26/02/2019 13:39

Popchyk it'll be buried in here somewhere, if you get time. I can't afford the rabbit hole of hours at the moment!

www2.gov.scot/Topics/Justice/policies/reducing-reoffending/sex-offender-management/protection

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LangCleg · 26/02/2019 13:41
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Popchyk · 26/02/2019 14:21

Ta, Lang.

Will root through in a bit.

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R0wantrees · 26/02/2019 15:50

This, it said, was done in line with national policy and through the Multi-Agency Public Protection Arrangement (MAPPA) with police, NHS Fife and the Scottish Prison Service.

James Morton (Scottish Trans Alliance) has been very inflential in pro trans rights Scottish Policies. As they have been scrutinised, impact studies on the implications for girls and women seem universally absent.
Scotland's current prison policy enables male prisoners who identify as women regardless of whether they have GRC to be accomodated in female estate.
The male offender in question is only 18 so won't have a GRC though this may not be relevent anyway

There are some groups of amazing women in Scotland identifying the legal and Safeguarding issues with policies.

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Knicknackpaddyflak · 26/02/2019 21:37

This, it said, was done in line with national policy

Then the national policy is abysmally unfit for purpose.

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BetsyM00 · 27/02/2019 11:35

Article in the Times today:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-sex-attacker-sent-to-female-hostel-c3vw35c06?shareToken=a81d15b744582b6b1f69bca121db4bf2

Apparently Fife Council thinks it's okay for the sex offender Dolatowski to be in a women's hostel as "These are women, they weren’t girls.”

It beggars belief!

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R0wantrees · 27/02/2019 11:44

from Times:

Asked how Dolatowski could pass a risk assessment to live in a women-only hostel having targeted two girls, a council spokeswoman said: “These are women, they weren’t girls.”

She added that the decision to admit Dolatowski to a female hostel was guided by the National Accommodation Strategy for Sex Offenders, which does not mention transgender people.

The spokeswoman refused to provide the criteria of the risk assessment. It is understood that Dolatowski has now been moved into her own accommodation.

This is such a failure of Safeguarding and critical thinking.

The fact that an 18 year old identifies as transgender is not the relevent issue.

The offender is a male.
The offender was convicted of sexual assault and voyeurism against two females who were children, in a women's toilet.

There is no basis for a male convicted of these crimes to be housed in what should be single sex accomodation for vulnerable females, regardless of age.

I can't imagine how this went through Offender Management discussions. Only that policies created by Trans Rights lobbyists obscured the offender's sex and thus hindered effective risk management.

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R0wantrees · 27/02/2019 11:47

apologies, should read 'regardless of age of the female victims'

It is also well recognised that part of predatory paedophile behaviour is that some offenders will target vulnerable single mothers.

This should also be included in risk assessment as is relevent both in Bail Hostels, refuges and female prison estate.

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VickyEadie · 27/02/2019 15:44

So - they assumed this person wasn't a risk to adult women, on the grounds that this person assaulted a child.

The person also threatened to kill the child's mother.

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LangCleg · 27/02/2019 16:01

Honestly, as soon as thing my gast has been flabbered beyond reason, something comes along and flabbers it all over again.

“These are women, they weren’t girls.”

JFC.

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LangCleg · 27/02/2019 16:01

Sigh @ me. as soon as I think

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Gingerkittykat · 15/03/2019 15:16

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/848931/fife-sex-offender-back-in-court-after-breaching-community-payback-order/

Katie Dolatowski breaches community payback order, still at risk of offending.

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MillytantForceit · 15/03/2019 15:22

Sorry?

We have to ask the creeps please not to delete their online perving history????

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jay55 · 15/03/2019 15:34

Sounds like they are too big a risk to be in the community.

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GrinitchSpinach · 15/03/2019 15:37

I think that may be the first photo published of this creep? About time.

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Gingerkittykat · 15/03/2019 15:59

The photo and accompanying facebook message from an organisation alerting people to sex offenders is being widely circulated locally where the offences occurred so she will not be able to hide behind anonymity anymore.

I very much agree she sounds she poses an ongoing danger to women and girls.

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rocketromano · 15/03/2019 16:02

That article doesn’t specifically say they are trans - there will be people out there assuming this is a female sex offender Angry
Why are their feelings more important than the safety of others eg the women who had to share a hostel with a sex offender.
I hope Joan Macalpine is on the case with this again

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Gingerkittykat · 15/03/2019 17:23

I agree, there was a thread on Facebook earlier where a man complained that KD was given lenient treatment because she was a woman.

A quick link to the page about her being trans in a womens hostel shocked them.

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Popchyk · 15/03/2019 19:54
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scotsheather · 15/03/2019 20:14

Would be interesting what prison Katie goes to if thats the sentence, or YOI wing. We have one for male and female here, originally male. Any bets it will be womens, wrongly in my view?

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wigglybeezer · 15/03/2019 21:25

I recently went to see Nish Kumar, the political comedian at the Dunfermline Alhambra, mainly to listen to him ranting about Brexit, which was funny, however his pro trans rant included a section on how unreasonable it was for women to worry about transwomen behaving badly in women's toilets, tumbleweeds blew through the room. I very nearly heckled but chickened out, sorry 😕

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NopeNi · 16/03/2019 09:04

I am so fucking sick of the Woke Bros. HOW DO THEY NOT GET IT? What will it take to ram it through their skulls that men are a danger to women?

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StephsCaddy · 16/03/2019 09:15

They won’t ever get it. It will never have any impact in their lives so they don’t have to care.

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Isadora2007 · 16/03/2019 09:26

This is a photo I found online so can be shared here
I am also local and have a 9 year old daughter. Sadly HER freedom and not “Katie’s” will be curtailed as I often let her go to the toilet etc alone in shops... no more.

Article in Dundee Courier about assault of 10 year old girl in supermarket toilets
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Sexnotgender · 16/03/2019 09:36

Fuck. Will be sharing that photo with DD who regularly uses the Morrison’s in Kirkcaldy. Loads of school kids use it at lunchtime.

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