The Herald - Trans guidance for Scottish schools breaches 11 children's rights campaigners warn

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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17393697.trans-guidance-for-scottish-schools-breaches-11-childrens-rights-campaigners-warn/

I'm off to find the Impact Assessment...

Wow.

I don’t know who acts as ombudsman for schools in Scotland but I attach a screenshot from Twitter feed where ofsted say that equality is of concern to them (another issue was being discussed). It may be worth asking for their comment both generally and with regard to specific schools/incident.

My first thought when I read this was Guides too. I will also email GGUK to raise this with them, because the more that do it the better in my opinion.

Stonewall are due to visit my city very soon. To train some local primary and secondary schools about 'how to be a trans-inclusive school'. Afaik Stonewall teach very similar things re the law (Equality Act etc) and safeguarding as the guidance for Scotland does. I met with my very TWAW MP last week to discuss my concerns regarding the impact on girls that this might well have. He was not helpful. I plan to write to each local school now and will link to transgender trend pack and I will now also link to this document I think. Who else has responsibility for this at a local level does anyone know? Also where can I raise my concerns nationally?

I’m repeatedly in awe of the amazing women, on here. That was brilliant CharlieParley.

Brava to all the women who have worked on this. And to the Herald for publishing such a great article

Really good article! I have shared on my Facebook.

I don’t know who acts as ombudsman for schools in Scotland

I think this falls under the care inspectorate.

It would be Education Scotland. Care Inspectorate is equivalent to Ofsted for care services (nurseries, after school clubs etc) but not schools

No doubt Owen Jones, Peter Thatchell, Pink News, Stonewall etc will not take any of it on board.

Their bottom line however is that trans children are more important than other children, their feelings and needs are of greater value and priority, and other children (especially girls) and women should willingly embrace surrendering the right to privacy, dignity, personal boundaries or the language to name themselves or be a recognised group by biology, because of 'privilege'. They should sacrifice to transgendered people to redress their crime of being born female. No boundaries or barriers should be maintained for a trans person who wishes to cross them.

So of course they can't say that straight out to the general public, they know exactly what the general public would say back. As numerous lead TRAs have said; the way they have gone about this for years is by stealth, as unnoticed as possible, to avoid people realising what they are truly doing and why, because if it was transparent and honest the general public would absolutely refuse point blank to go along with it. It's in part why they hate MN - we will not stop sharing this information, pointing it out and telling people about it.

Thanks, I was thinking of my childminder so that's why I've got that wrong!

Their bottom line however is that trans children are more important than other children, their feelings and needs are of greater value and priority, and other children (especially girls) and women should willingly embrace surrendering the right to privacy, dignity, personal boundaries or the language to name themselves or be a recognised group by biology, because of 'privilege'. They should sacrifice to transgendered people to redress their crime of being born female. No boundaries or barriers should be maintained for a trans person who wishes to cross them.
Exactly Knicknack, this pretty much sums up my meeting with my MP last week.

This should really help with meeting MSP's too, they often deny the impact of these kinds of policies and proposals, and fail to consider the rights of women and girls. They struggle with understanding that we have rights to privacy and dignity, and they often view our points re safety as a comment that trans people are inherently a threat because they are trans. This document helps to cut through that by showing the importance of these rights for girls in relation to male children, and as CYPCS said, the Scottish government should be ensuring that these kinds of assessments are carried out, it's not just a local authority/schools issue.

I am on page 16 of the CRIA so far. It's brilliant.

Of course, there has been an unfortunate error. Someone suggested the best place to trial this brave new policy would be prisons. If it could work there, in the most difficult circumstances, everything else would follow.

This comment jumped out at me, AnyOldPrion. This is what happened, and I am wondering if was a mistake as such.

My thoughts - the prisons was an easy place to get it in, because prisoners in general are not a population that elicits much sympathy in people. That the people who would be negatively impacted are both prisoners and women, means concern for them goes to the bottom of the pile.

Is this why the TRAs pushed for prisons, because they (thought they) knew nobody in authority or the public would be looking too closely at the impact on women?

Or did prisons slip through quickest because nobody was paying attention (because who cares about women in prison).

Were the TRAs expecting that all transwomen to behave in an exemplary manner to make it easy for this to be replicated elsewhere? Or did they think some transwomen probably would assault women in prison, but that nobody would care?

It hasn't worked out well though, for anyone. That much is clear.

Can someone link to the CRIA? I can’t find it.

wgscotland.org.uk/

Does this link work Gently?

Knicknackpaddyflak Given that the GRA 2004 openly acknowledges it has created a deceit, a 'legal fiction' it is unsurprising, I guess, that TRAs would feel enabled by that law to manipulate that deceit to further their own ends.

#RepealTheGRA

The GRA 2004 came into existence to deal with same sex marriage plus pension issues.

Now that same sex marriage is law and pension ages are equalised the GRA 2004 is defunct.

Perhaps our Parliament should now be promoting a society wherein stereotypical gendered behaviours become irrelevant and nobody needs to change their birth certificate.

Now that would really be progressive. Males would eventually become accepting of their brothers who express themselves very differently and vice versa [even though females already accept all their gender non-conforming sisters who still want to be part of the female sisterhood].

Yes. What a thorough document. And brilliant in using quotes from the NSPCC, girl guides, and Mermaids as well as the Guardian, all in areas where those organisations have said things that are sensible. Of course we know that eg the NSPCC has then refused to say how its position on trans young people is consistent with its PANTS rule and just hope people don’t ask.....

Thanks for the link.

Very well and calmly written; just common sense really which is all we ask really. Thank you.

YY Jacky

That's generous, Gently It was a bit nearer run away in panic and hide from anyone who asks. Much like the GG, now holding a panic stricken meeting having realised they've painted themselves into a corner and there is no way out.

Due diligence. Would have saved so much egg on people's faces, and averted so much of the coming scandals, voter outrage and the naming, blaming and shaming that is inevitable now as this all comes to light.

Were the TRAs expecting that all transwomen to behave in an exemplary manner to make it easy for this to be replicated elsewhere? Or did they think some transwomen probably would assault women in prison, but that nobody would care?

I wondered that too Sonic. Perhaps those in power genuinely believe the rhetoric that TW are poor defenceless gentle beings who are so very sensitive that they mustn’t be amongst men.

Then again, I wondered if anyone who wanted to derail the trans agenda would be cynical enough to suggest it, knowing exactly what the result would be. I hope not, as that would show a willingness to throw women in prison under the bus.

But it really was such a daft idea that I can’t understand how anyone could be naive enough to seriously suggest it and think it would work.

Or did they think some transwomen probably would assault women in prison, but that nobody would care?

Considering that ‘ordinary’ women are often doubted and judged on their behaviour, when raped/assaulted or molested, I reckon they banked on no one believing the women in jail. They assumed that people would judge them because they’re prisoners, rather than vulnerable women. Big, big mistake!