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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Courting the far right is wrong....

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OneTimeThing · 26/01/2019 08:12

...if you follow that with a ‘but’ to justify Posie Parker’s courting of the far right, then you are a fascist.

I said I would only post one thing on this board. I kept that promise.

But this is the pits right here. Posie Parker is seeking funding and making deals with white supremacist, crypto fascists, misogynists, homophobes and racists. How does this not show you what your movement is and has always been?

You need to look at yourselves. If your response is anything other than total rejection of posie Parker and all the groups she is involving herself with, then you are just as bad. If you think that trans people/‘trans activists’ are worse than Tommy Robinson, ultra trump supporters and others who spew far right views then you are a racist, sexist, homophobic nightmare. Those labels equally describe what a person is as well as what a person does.

“But what about TRA’s?” Some of you will want to scream at me.

You don’t see Paris Lees going off to get funding from literal fascists. Hell, Caitlin Jenner votes for trump and the global trans community has never and will never forgive her. And either way, none of what “they” do will magically make it okay to go suck up to people that think gay people should be sterilised or that Muslim’s are evil.

Transphobia is revolting. It’s wrong, and it comes as no surprise to hear that transphobia (which most of you peddle right here) will eventually push people towards other kinds of hate.

Take a long hard look at yourselves. I’m a transgender woman, a mum, and I hope at least some of you are seriously thinking about what kind of person you want to be.

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sackrifice · 26/01/2019 17:17

To be fair, if it is about donations = making that person your leader, then My friend Barry who ran Lands End to John O'Groats in 1985 is mine, so I really do need to look him up on facebook and see what he is currently 'standing for'.

lisamuggeridge · 26/01/2019 17:18

It invoves a really really really lot of make up. I felt like Barbara Cartland when I was done. Its just brown eyeshadow. Blending smudges into piles of make up.

sackrifice · 26/01/2019 17:18

I once bought an Iron Maiden album. That proves I'm wearing spandex trousers right now!

If I look at my record collection and do this by numbers of vinyl albums purchased, I do believe Paul Stanley must now be the boss of me.

[Because as well as the KISS albums, I bought his solo LP back in the day].

Hurrah!

Oxytocindeficient · 26/01/2019 17:19

I also voted Lib Dem, who think we are not allowed to set boundaries or have spaces away from males. They’re misogynist. Should I be burnt at the stake for giving them my vote?

sackrifice · 26/01/2019 17:19

It invoves a really really really lot of make up. I felt like Barbara Cartland when I was done. Its just brown eyeshadow. Blending smudges into piles of make up.

I'll ask Paul Stanley [AKA my new boss] at Monday's team meeting. He knows a thing or two about contouring.

WrathofRancidKlopp · 26/01/2019 17:19

Earlywalker said:
You will forever be the bigot in the equasion if you allow the proven bigot to speak for you without condemning her

Earlywalker then said:
I didn’t say anyone here is a bigot

Earlywalker · 26/01/2019 17:20

She ran the campaign therefore you gave money to her.
I’m starting to wonder if you actually do want to protect woman, or if you just want a good moan. As you don’t seem to give a shit about things that will greatly hinder you.

And no that woman who is condemning a woman’s right to abortion and contraception does not deserve a voice in a debate in the name of woman, I can’t believe you’d think otherwise.

nauticant · 26/01/2019 17:20

I wonder if somewhere else on the Internet at the moment there's a woman lecturing men in kind of reverse version of this thread. And getting humoured rather than being met by a torrent of misogynistic abuse.

Earlywalker · 26/01/2019 17:20

Yes other people are viewing you as bigots, are you spending that much time in the echo chamber that you don’t see this?

AngryAttackKittens · 26/01/2019 17:21

I bought a cupcake from a nice lady who was something to do with some sort of church once, was raising money for something to do with children. Actually I just wanted a cupcake, but apparently in buying it I joined a religious organization, so I suppose I should probably figure out which one it was.

But then I also once gave some change to one of those "gouranga be happy!" people in the city center once in my teens, so now I'm not sure what religion I'm meant to be following.

lisamuggeridge · 26/01/2019 17:21

I voted Lib Dem. I didnt fall for Cleggmania though. I knew that was batshit. I judge you if you didnt.

Its not just countouring, its really matte lipsticks and liquid lipsticks that suck every inch of dryness. I think its people getting ready like a professional lighting crew will be following all day.

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sackrifice · 26/01/2019 17:22

And no that woman who is condemning a woman’s right to abortion and contraception does not deserve a voice in a debate in the name of woman, I can’t believe you’d think otherwise.

So only women that YOU deem right are allowed a voice? If this is about free speech, why is she not allowed to have her say on the matter?

Why do you think you are the auditor of people's speech?

HamiltonCork · 26/01/2019 17:22

every woman has a voice in this debate. Even the ones I think are talking utter Bullshit.

(For the avoidance of doubt I’m talking about the cunty variety of women).

nauticant · 26/01/2019 17:22

Aargh not the food again! The talk this morning triggered my into an too-early lunch and now I risk being triggered into a too-early tea.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 26/01/2019 17:23

Yes other people are viewing you as bigots, are you spending that much time in the echo chamber that you don’t see this?

Right, but why should we care?

Some people on the internet think we're bigots, we know.

Why should we care?

Oxytocindeficient · 26/01/2019 17:23

‘Other people’ who think we should be forced to accept naked males in our spaces and males taking women’s positions. I literally do not care what such people think of me. They’re misogynist.

lisamuggeridge · 26/01/2019 17:23

OMG I gave the kid in the queue in the shop a quid cos he was short, if he grows up to take over the world and do bad things, I am pretty much responsible for that. Funder. He is from here though so class will probably limit opportunity..phew

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 26/01/2019 17:24

I think aliens will take the best of the human race to live in their alien zoo...

Doesn't make it true does it?

silentcrow · 26/01/2019 17:24

AngryAttackKittens
The only video you'll ever need on contouring: m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJaaLXZwmsU

I would totally give her money.

WeRiseUp · 26/01/2019 17:25

I have to confess I don't much care what a bunch of utter brainless fuckwits think of me. Should I be ashamed?

earlywalker · 26/01/2019 17:25

You should care because if you want to be heard, you need people to want to listen.

You think a feminist that’s just entered the GC world is going to want to get on board with anti abortion protestors? You think anyone is going to believe it’s all in the name of woman when you don’t condem people like that?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 26/01/2019 17:26

Should I be ashamed

You've been told you need to care!!!!

HamiltonCork · 26/01/2019 17:26

So we should be good girls and do as we are told? Fuck that shit.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/01/2019 17:26

No more recipes, vipers! Recipes are embarrassing, because...fuck, I don't know, women aren't meant to want to eat?