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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Woman Charged With Kicking Elderly Woman In The Face'

27 replies

QuietContraryMary · 24/01/2019 00:03

Yes it's a story that has been redacted to remove the fact that the accused is male.

chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/01/23/woman-kicked-elderly-woman-face-red-line/

See attached screenshot from Google news showing how this article has been censored since publication, presumably on complaints from TRAs.

Note that 'Jerrel' is not a woman's name, and public arrest records are clear that this person is male.

illinois.arrests.org/search.php?fname=jerrel&fpartial=True&lname=turner

'Woman Charged With Kicking Elderly Woman In The Face'
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2ndWaveFeminist · 24/01/2019 00:12

I am so tired of these weird unprovoked attacks on women being attributed to other women without any qualifiers

trumpdump · 24/01/2019 00:23

They aren't having any of this shite in America.

Danaquestionseverything · 24/01/2019 00:33

Sigh. I knew that would be the case before I clicked on this topic.
Utter Coward.

HaroldsSocalledBluetits · 24/01/2019 00:35

Man.

SignMeUp · 24/01/2019 01:23

trumpdump I beg to differ. The reporting in the USA is very much skewed by "misgendering" and all that goes along with statistical warping of truth

AngryAttackKittens · 24/01/2019 01:36

Interesting how neither women nor non trans identified men tend to kick old ladies in the face.

Sexnotgender · 24/01/2019 01:50

Interesting how neither women nor non trans identified men tend to kick old ladies in the face.
Funny that...

GeorgeFayne · 24/01/2019 04:38

This is one of the aspects of all of this shit that just makes my blood boil. For thousands of years, women have been beaten, killed, raped, violently at the hands of men and RARELY engage in such behavior as a class. Crimes committed under the GUISE of womanhood are changing everything now and I feel powerless to stop this tide of deceit and fraud. The lies!!! It's MADNESS!

Smotheroffive · 24/01/2019 04:44

How depressing! I knew when I saw the thread title, at first sight though I did register alarm at what it said just for a.moment, knew what it would be when. I clicked it.

Stop this bloody dangerous nonsense, slandering women's reputation.

Smotheroffive · 24/01/2019 04:49

Would this even make the news if it wasn't for the tw being called a woman, no.

Sick bloke kicking a woman in the face, just swinging from the overhead rail

Sick man

Porridgeoat · 24/01/2019 05:14

Why can’t they call her a person who identifies as a woman

Kimlek · 24/01/2019 05:41

porridgeoat wouldn’t receive as many ‘clicks’ would it. It’s the same when you read nurse did x,y, z - 20 years ago I’d assume female and be horrified now I know that there’s a 99% chance that the nurse is male. Maybe in 20 years time we’ll all know that the ‘woman’ is male.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 24/01/2019 06:10

How neither women nor non-trans identified men don’t tend to kick old ladies in the face?

Are you kidding? You are entirely correct that women do not generally carry out crimes like that. But males commit the vast majority of violent crime, including against the elderly. This is absolutely something that non-trans men do and the fact that this male IDs as female has no impact on his violent nature, as is shown by what he has done.

Floisme · 24/01/2019 07:21

I think we need to start keeping a tally of cases like this. We can't trust the crime stats any more.

Floisme · 24/01/2019 07:23

And I'm pretty sure Angry was being sarcastic.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 24/01/2019 07:25

If she was being sarcastic why say women and non-trans men? Women do not commit this sort of crime but men do. Am I missing something?

AnyOldPrion · 24/01/2019 07:26

This is one of the aspects of all of this shit that just makes my blood boil

Me too. Every time I see something like this, it freshly enrages me.

I suspect AAK was talking about transmen Funky.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 24/01/2019 07:36

Ah okay. Sorry for the confusion then. Yes, neither trans men nor women tend to be the ones who attack the elderly. Males on the other hand...

happydappy2 · 24/01/2019 07:38

It’s a blatant lie to call this individual a woman. Don’t the press have an obligation to report factual truths.

Cwenthryth · 24/01/2019 07:38

I don’t think your missing anything funky. I am wondering whether perhaps autogynephiles out and about dressed ‘as women’ perhaps see themselves as less of a threat than an average man, or think that women will see them as less of a threat than an average man, and some with violent tendencies may take advantage of that perceived naïvety, perhaps there’s something in that.

multiple witnesses reported seeing 34-year-old Jerrel Turner swing her body from an overhead handrail and kick the elderly woman in the face without provocation
I don’t know what to say to that, I can’t get my head around why anyone would do such a thing. I’m guessing piss poor impulse control and lack of awareness or concern for consequences (hmm, male socialisation much) but why the desire to do this to someone - pure misogynistic hatred?

On an side note, interesting to see that this jurisdiction has a specific offence for violence against someone over 60. I wonder if that’s default on victim’s age or if it needs to be proven the perpetrator reasonably knew they were over 60, and what the difference in sentencing tariff is.

Cwenthryth · 24/01/2019 07:40

X-post with the transmen vs non trans-identified men clarification

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 24/01/2019 07:51

Thanks Cwenthryth. I was just confused because on first reading it looked like it said that neither natal women nor natal men commit this sort of crime. Which confused me because natal men commit the vast majority of violent crime, including random unprovoked attacks. I was taking money out of a cashpoint once and a man tapped me on the shoulder and then proceeded to scream loudly in my face. I got such a shock and was on my own. He just did it to show off to his friends who were falling about laughing. It was nothing like as bad as this but the point is that men will sometimes go up and violently assault someone just for the hell of it. And them being dressed as or IDing as women makes no odds.

Cwenthryth · 24/01/2019 08:03

Y’know re-reading my ‘do autogynephiles see themselves/perceive themselves as less of a threat’ pondering, I’ve presupposed that any males are aware that they pose an inherent threat to females in the first place. Whilst obviously some individuals are cognisant, I guess it’s simple male privelige to not be aware of the risk assessments women have to continually make (consciously or subconsciously) around unknown men. And sometimes sadly known men.

andyoldlabour · 24/01/2019 08:04

This is another report, and I have made a comment, but I don't expect it to last very long.

www.edgevillebuzz.com/news/elderly-woman-kicked-in-face-on-red-line-train-near-bryn-mawr

andyoldlabour · 24/01/2019 08:19

Some good comments on this article. We also have someone commenting that they would like to hear both sides of the story, because "if the old lady was white she may have said some mess out of her mouth".

www.lipstickalley.com/threads/transgender-woman-charged-with-kicking-elderly-79-year-old-woman-in-the-face.2104918/

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