Harry the owl visited by police

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This whole hate speech/incident law is completely out of control. This is sinister.
Check out @HarryTheOwl’s Tweet: twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1088144870991114241?s=09

Not entirely unheard of, it's called chimerism but it is rare.

BowlofBabelfish usually deals with these assertions but she's busy with her small baby bowl.

see her response to question from recent thread:

"If you have to refer back to Y chromosomes in such cases, what about in people who also have chromosomal mosaicism, which is not vanishingly rare?"

Bowl replied, what about them? What exactly is the evidence that says that somebody with a chimerism is anything to do with trans?

It’s irrelevant. It says nothing whatsoever about transgender. nothing. intersex conditions are physical. Medically relevant errors of sexual development. They are physical, defineable, observable.

Gender identity is not. It’s an idea, a concept.

Intersex conditions are nothing to do with being trans. Nobody is a third sex. Nobody can change sex. "

thread (with many other useful clarifications):
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3436868-In-defence-of-deadnaming?pg=7

Chimerism IIRC is when two eggs are fertilised in the womb but fuse together in a very early stage of development, forming one person from 2 feotuses who would have been twins otherwise. Most chimeras will have no idea they are chimeric.

The different DNA can form any different bits of the body. I would imagine chimeric people with brains coming entirely from one of the twins and the whole of the rest of the body from the other twin, of the opposite sex, would be a vanishingly unlikely subset of this already rare condition.

Chimerism is fascinating and poses lots of interesting questions about who we are.

Absolutely fuck all to do with transgenderism.

More on chimerism just because it's so interesting

waves at Hazza

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Is it a matter of public record who provided the training to Humberside?
Honestly, I don’t know whether to be more concerned that someone is actually paying for this shit show training, or that there are people responsible for public safety and law and order that are gullible enough to believe it. Ffs.
Someone with a brain cell needs to get a grip of Gul. I am loving the PC Gullible tag though.

Morning Harry

Sorry you've had to deal with the sharp end of this craziness....It's like the world has lost it's mind. And thank you for speaking out.

I've been to gender training. It runs like a timeshare sales pitch, specifically aimed at the nice-but-dim masses. PC Gullible won't have been the only one nodding along at the genderbread person graphic, after being emotionally manipulated with scary statistics and emotive videos.

It's quite worrying how easily some people are led.

It's quite worrying how easily some people are led.

I have no proof but I do really think schools are designed to do this, it makes the public workable for the government.
Playdoh public.
or maybe I've seen Pink Floyd's The Wall one too many times

I have no proof but I do really think schools are designed to do this

I don’t think that’s a very helpful comment - especially, as you said yourself, with no point of reference other than a crappy 80s faux-revolutionary singalong.

Actually it's a movie, and wasn't a comment but a musing, like you get on discussion forums.

A film? Holy mother of god.

The song is "Another brick in the wall part 2"
And the album is just "The Wall"

Yes Bob Geldof and Bob Hoskins are in it.

Ah, that makes more sense - which song?

It's by feminist singer songwriter Ali Bee, and was shared in its entirety by a fan on Twitter and the beginning of it is the tweet Harry liked.

Yes Bob Geldof and Bob Hoskins are in it.

Well, I’m gutted I didn’t see it when it was doing the rounds. Sounds a corker

Sorry for derail, OP

Telegraph piece here. Too perfect that it was PC Gul.

Love the police officer's response to the Telegraph! I wonder what other rubbish was spouted in that training session that he now believes.

@CaptainKirksSpookyghost Foucault already developed your idea - docile bodies etc. YouTube it - as I think his books are impenetrable for mere laypeople like us :)

Scary thing is that no amount of hatred against women would be considered equally - it's not a "hate crime" in the eyes of CPS.
Either there are hate crime laws for all oppressed groups or none, it is a mess.
And when you look at twitter of course the actual threats are coming from TRAs

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It looks as though PC Gul is involved in the education of the young - god help us all.

twitter.com/forum_nexus/status/1009738171695976449

Oh for gods sake. The absolute worse person to talk to children. I sincerely hope legal avenues are being looked at as he is the one who needs to be investigated, both for being so incredibly dumb and for harassing the public for wrong think. Absolute doofus

This is really worrying, because we are allowing a certain miniscule sector of society to set the rules for us. I wonder who the transgender person was who ran the course? I wonder if they had a degree in philosophy or maybe gender studies and whether or not they liked "furries"?

"Confirming that he had spoken to Mr Miller for 20 minutes, PC Gul told the Telegraph he made the remark about the foetus because he had “learned it on a training course ran by a transgender person last summer”.

I am so fcking annoyed by all this, it is total shit.