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IMPORTANT! Chris Ashton "It seem twitter have shadow banned FreedomProgramm because women don’t have penises. Ensuring women cannot access the support they need in crisis."

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R0wantrees · 19/01/2019 13:52

twitter.com/apurrpurr/status/1086568414913667072

This means that the twitter account of such an important charity has likely been report targetted by TRAs.

It means that women at risk searching for the account on Twitter will not find the Freedom Programme and also that their tweets will be hidden to many.

website:
freedomprogramme.co.uk/sample-online/bully1.php

twitter:
twitter.com/FreedomProgramm

#istandwithfreedomprogramme

IMPORTANT! Chris Ashton "It seem twitter have shadow banned FreedomProgramm because women don’t have penises. Ensuring women cannot access the support they need in crisis."
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R0wantrees · 20/01/2019 09:12

VAWAG= violence against women and girls

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CisMyArse · 20/01/2019 10:36

Isn't Lewis Moonie a member of the HoL? He's been pretty vocal about women's rights with MRA and TRA's recently. Can he be contacted about this I wonder?

Justhadathought · 20/01/2019 11:17

Twitter is an entirely negative space, and nothing really good can ever come out of it. It is divisive, nasty and, above all, trivial.

userschmoozer · 20/01/2019 11:22

Twitter is just a tool. It's the people misusing it for their own agenda that are the divisive, nasty ones.

Justhadathought · 20/01/2019 11:23

If you are not involved with Twitter then many of the oft repeated names on here are meaningless and irrelevant. Who cares what Adrian Harrop has to say, or Munroe Bergdorf? The general public have not got a clue, either - as twitter worlds are very small, personalised worlds.

We wonder why the public is so unaware, and even our own political representatives, about the transgender issue, and that is because much of the resistance is going on, out of sight, on twitter.

I don't even use a mobile phone, and that maybe explains why I didn't even wake up to what was going on around transgenderism until September last year, when the Liverpool Resisters performed their penis sticker stunt and it got local publicity. I live in Liverpool.

LangCleg · 20/01/2019 11:28

I don't even use a mobile phone, and that maybe explains why I didn't even wake up to what was going on around transgenderism until September last year

If Twitter is good for anything, it's putting the lobbyists and the mediating class in public view. We can see what they think about us and what they are doing that might harm us.

It is most certainly a toxic cesspit and prima facie evidence of what happens when corporations can direct discourse - but it's well worth knowing what happens there and who is saying and doing what.

R0wantrees · 20/01/2019 11:32

If you are not involved with Twitter then many of the oft repeated names on here are meaningless and irrelevant. Who cares what Adrian Harrop has to say, or Munroe Bergdorf? The general public have not got a clue, either - as twitter worlds are very small, personalised worlds.

Politicians and etc are influenced by twitter.

The majority of people I know don't use it.

Some of those who do use it have secured disproportionate influence.

Policies have been made on the basis of this eg consutations (City of London) which are only promoted on social media.

it is called trans-twitter by many within the community

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Justhadathought · 20/01/2019 11:36

Maybe having a brief look in at what the general tone is, can be of use - but nothing is going to be changed as a result of it. Getting too involved in personal animosities is just damaging to mental health. Talk to real people out on the streets; on the bus; in the supermarket; at the school gates.......

It was really only recently that 'The Times' got on board - and that in itself only seemed to come about as a result of the poster and sticker campaigns.Those campaigns got people talking and made it into local and national media; bringing to light something that the TRA's had hoped could be pushed through quietly and without resistance.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 20/01/2019 11:39

Talk to real people out on the streets; on the bus; in the supermarket; at the school gates.......

This is so important, we all need to make those around us aware of what's going on. We can't stop what is happening, it's a push from above, but we as a society can chose to not follow it and protect each other.

nauticant · 20/01/2019 11:40

If you are not involved with Twitter then many of the oft repeated names on here are meaningless and irrelevant. Who cares what Adrian Harrop has to say, or Munroe Bergdorf? The general public have not got a clue, either - as twitter worlds are very small, personalised worlds.

Following on from R0wantrees, in some ways politics is becoming a niche interest for the population in general. People are turning away and many don't even bother with the news. As a result, social media becomes a more powerful tool because it is able to sway a significant proportion of a small number of people still having a passing interest in politics.

It's very easy to dismiss social media but just look at the impact it has had in advancing the progress of a variety of disparate populist movements.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 20/01/2019 11:53

They're back on Twitter

R0wantrees · 20/01/2019 12:12

They weren't completely off!
They've been subject to a series of restrictions.
Some may have been lifted

The account is still restricted /sanctioned/shadow banned.

The 'Freedom Programme' does not show up on a search and its tweets are hidden except to people following.

twitter account here [[Freedomprogramme
@FreedomProgramm]]

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R0wantrees · 20/01/2019 12:14

apologies, link twitter.com/FreedomProgramm

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BertrandRussell · 20/01/2019 12:21

Can I suggest we all post their website on Facebook?

userschmoozer · 20/01/2019 12:36

They are back, tweeting again, and their account is no longer restricted Smile

TopBitchoftheWitches · 20/01/2019 12:40

Freedom programme has just requested to follow me back so fingers crossed they can post as normal.

userschmoozer · 20/01/2019 12:43

I'm creeped out by the timing of their ban, which coincided with the day of the Women's March. It looks like an act of domination to me.

WongaGoneWronga · 20/01/2019 13:02

Whi is Chris Ashton, the tweeter who says says it seems to be because they said women don't have penises?

Doesn't anyone actually know what was reported or by whom? I men, it's all very well peak transing over this but unless I'm missing something there's nothing beyond a tweet assuming a lot and assigning blame on why the FP Twitter is restricted.

R0wantrees · 20/01/2019 13:26

"Chris Ashton, IDVA,ISVA,YPVA Author,Trainer. Expert DV witness, campaigner, Freedom Programme trainer. Will continue the battle till victims are protected.

www.endabuse.co.uk/ "

The Freedom Programme centres women and children and names and describes male-pattern abuse.
They do not accept that women have penises or that women's services such as theirs should be compromised.

You can find out all about their work on the website and twitter account.

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sackrifice · 20/01/2019 13:28

Twitter shadow banning the Freedom Programme, perhaps the Freedom Programme need to design a new module, that of the behaviour of men online silencing and blocking women's access to help to identify male abuse?

greenlanes · 20/01/2019 21:25

Who actually runs the Freedom Programme and links to twitter? Is it Womens Aid or is it separate?

R0wantrees · 20/01/2019 22:04

Freedom Programme is independent & it is self funded.

from website:
"What is the Freedom Programme?
Freedom Programme is a domestic violence programme which was created by Pat Craven who holds the copyright (all rights reserved) and evolved from her work with perpetrators of domestic violence. We provide information, not therapy. Click here to read the mission statement

The Programme was primarily designed for women as victims of domestic violence, since research shows that in the vast majority of cases of serious abuse are male on female. However, the programme, when provided as an intensive two day course, is also suitable for men, whether abusive and wishing to change their attitudes and behaviour or whether victims of same sex domestic abuse themselves.

The Freedom Programme examines the roles played by attitudes and beliefs on the actions of abusive men and the responses of victims and survivors. The aim is to help them to make sense of and understand what has happened to them, instead of the whole experience just feeling like a horrible mess. The Freedom Programme also describes in detail how children are affected by being exposed to this kind of abuse and very importantly how their lives are improved when the abuse is removed.
Click here to watch a sample session of the from the Audio Visual Version which is now for sale as a download.

The programme usually lasts for 11 or 12 weeks and is FREE. It provided by hundreds of agencies across the UK. Some of them are rolling so women can join at any time but this varies according to local needs, etc.

Click here to search for one in your area or contact our Freedom Programme help line 01942 262 270 or contact our help desk: [email protected].
The National Domestic Violence 24 hour helpline number is 0808 2000 247"

freedomprogramme.co.uk/index.php

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Ereshkigal · 20/01/2019 22:15

Wonga, you really are desperate trying to minimise the misogyny here.

LangCleg · 20/01/2019 22:32

politics is becoming a niche interest for the population in general

Yes and no. Electoral and media politics is becoming a niche interest. Which is why the bourgeois idiots in electoral and media politics don't notice that practical politics isn't a niche interest at all - whether that be Brexit or GC feminism, two entirely unrelated things. They really should hurry up and get with the programme, before it's too late.