WTF is this evil?

[Badstyley]

This is horrendous, what can we do about it?

transit.org.uk/children.html

Sorry, forgot clicky. It’s still early...

transit.org.uk/children.html

Looks very dodgy from a security point of view. Don’t click on the ‘edit this site’ button - it could knacker your laptop (technical term).

If you’re a parent of a trans child, and your child has only just become of puberty age, it is your moral duty to make sure that they do NOT start their genetic puberty AT ALL.

If you love your child, then you should allow them to go through the puberty of their real gender, the one that they came out to you as.

By not letting your child transition, you risk losing your child.

If you do not let your child transition, you risk losing your child - permanently.

This is outrageous. Emotional blackmail.

They also believe that children OF ANY AGE should be able to have surgery.

transit.org.uk/about.html

Placemarking for later. Got to go to a meeting now.

That is so far beyond normal, ethical behaviour I really don’t have the words. Does anyone know who this group are and if they have influence? Referring to children aged 10-12 as transmen and transwomen is so wrong. We don’t normally refer to children of this age as men and women, they are children FFS!

To tackle the medical bit (which is what I know about):

1. Puberty is not a single uniform event. It presents differently in different children at different times. Trying to predict when a child will start puberty before they start showing signs of it is very difficult so a blanket suggestion of ages to start puberty blockers is no good (aside from the ethics of using puberty blockers at all).
2. The suicide line...better a happy daughter than a dead son....we’ve all heard it before and once again TRAs choose to ignore advice from Samaritans about discussing suicide responsibly and choose the emotional manipulation of parents instead.
3. GPs do not have to refer anyone, for anything. There are principles of good practice but you cannot demand a referral.
4. GenderGP, run by Helen Webberley and her husband has (is still?) being investigated by the GMC and clearly falls foul of many of the recommendations in GMC guidance Good Medical Practice.
5. This blatantly ignores that many children, I think around 80-90%, will desist in their wish to change gender if supported to go through their natal puberty.

So once again, we have a group of TRAs (and my guess would be this is run by males who identify as women, who have no gender dysphoria and are quite happily planning on keeping their penis) advocating the transing of children in order to support their sanitised narrative of how they were always women and felt that way since they were young in order to hide the true motive behind their own transition, namely autogynaephilia, a sexual fetish.

I don’t feel it’s a genuine site - there is something odd about the set up and the blatant ‘in your face’ wording. It’s as if they want people to click/be tracked... I’m a suspicious old boot (and use this kind of tech - legitimately - for work).

The message is truly diabolical though.

I'm not clicking. But

1. Puberty is not a single uniform event. It presents differently in different children at different times. Trying to predict when a child will start puberty before they start showing signs of it is very difficult so a blanket suggestion of ages to start puberty blockers is no good (aside from the ethics of using puberty blockers at all).

From what I remember, the blockers have to have something to block. Which is why they are started at a certain tanner stage - two, I think.

I don't know how they work, but I don't think you can start them beforehand.

Sorry, I meant to say it all sounds horribly uninformed and ridiculous.

there is something odd about the set up

It was very basic and amateur.

transit.org.uk/irc.html
I hope this site isn't real. I'd rather it was an obvious decoy to shop for screenshots on here.
Unfortunately there's no guarantee of that. This link promotes running IRC on a server that "frees you from tyranny". How lovely, much better that people who can't tell the difference between adults and children are able to chat without being tracked...

R0wantrees thanks for the link.

Utterly horrific. Every time I think I have seen it all something else shocks me.

Kiwi Farms have thread

Bloody hell !

Both at the author of that website, and also at how thorough the Kiwi Farms lot are...

That is a fucked up website. I thought it was a joke at first. Very in your face and forceful.

A friend suggested reporting it here.

www.iwf.org.uk/

A slight detail, what is kiwi farms?

Kiwi Farms is a forum where people dig on the internet for info and dox those who they believe deserve it. They are incredibly thorough and archive everything. They are also frequently (genuinely) transphobic, homophobic, misogynistic etc

Thank you. I read the Aimee challenor one earlier. Incredible (and horrifying)