Drag queens pose in bond age gear for calendar in aid of Mermaids

[JoanSummers]

I'm not sure if this has been posted?

"A local drag community in Newcastle have come together in style to create a one-of-a-kind 2019 calendar, with all proceeds going to charity to support transgender children and young people across the UK."

The February and March photos are attached.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6577301/Drag-queens-pose-glamorous-calendar.html

Susie Green should be under investigation from several angles imo. I cannot believe what she has apparently gotten away with. And I can't believe people are censored on the net and questioned by police off it for talking about what she has done when she is a public figure at the head of a children's charity.

Flying www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/reading-sessions-children-hosted-drag-117022
In Bristol they were using a drag queen called Miss Beaver. No comment.

Where is the promotion of tolerance and equality for women in these school visits by drag queens? I only see the opposite.

ChewyLouie that link is really interesting thanks.

EJennings, no, it's not. I didn't suggest it was, and I don't disagree that there is a fuckton of misogyny in drag. That's my position personally.

I was attempting to answer the question you posed about if another view in defence of drag as not necessarily misogynistic was possible, because I find it useful to approach my own views from different angles.

But given that we're on a thread discussing the odious S. Green's bizarre and inappropriate use of adult gay cross dressing culture to raise cash for her charity dedicated to confusing children and young people, the inevitable backlash against LGB because of it is on topic.

An earlier poster said something about drag being used as a wedge to make visible male fetishism more socially acceptable? Something like that?

I see Mermaids as doing exactly this. I dont believe the funding and other support they recieve and the influence they have is in proportion to the families they allegedly support. 'Trans kids' are used as a wedge to take the sex out of the public's perception of male transitioners, a plan openly stated since at least 2010, as seen in this interview with TRA Autumn Sandeen:

Miranda Yardley wrote about this here:
mirandayardley.com/en/suffer-the-children-how-children-became-the-collateral-damage-of-transgender-ideology/

In this light, this calendar incident looks like the (currently) successful wedge of trans kids (via Mermaids) being used in turn as a wedge to make a more obviously sexualised group (the men in drag fetish wear) seem more everyday/normal/wherever.

It's bringing the sex factor back in, basically. Use kids to make people/institutions to believe it's all non-threatening and safe, then throw the doors open to the men who get off on making their fetishes public.

And I'm so sorry for the train of posts but this is also I think part of what the support and parading of Lily Madigan and Aimee Challenor is about. These are adult males in positions of influence but when criticised they are constantly given support and protection as if they are children. Their age as youngish adults allows them to be identified as vulnerable children when useful in advising on trans kids (don't hurt the innocent unthreatening 20 something children!) but at the same time they campaign for and normalise male sexual fetishes ("male lesbians", "adult babies", furries for example).

Joan Summers

"the Web and feminists have been almost alone in standing up to it for a long time. The backlash will be on women's rights too. I don't know how to escape it because they have colonised our movements all so thoroughly."

You put this so well. This is what I see, they infiltrate where they see an angle that suits their purposes. They are somewhat baffling, the income of Mermaids was only £317,000.00 to March 2018 so they have to piggyback onto others to raise their profile and operate.

Plus the fact you could put almost anything in place of X and still snarl at people to get over it

"Some people don't believe in your made up gender identity", for instance.

Acceptance is not a virtue. It's simply a description of someone capitulating to someone else. In some contexts, this is a good thing. In others it's abuse. To elevate it to a virtue that must be practiced at all times is a religious idea, which is very evident when you look at the broad remit Stonewall have set themselves now.

This.

Good point about Lily and Aimee, Joan.

You cannot complain to the Charity Commission without also complaining to the charity. I have complained to Mermaids and will also follow this up with the Charity Commission.

Just catching up with this.

Here's the thing: when I was a child, 'drag' meant Danny la Rue on The Good Old Days, dressed in full Edwardian fig with perfect hair and make-up, feather boa, picture hat and parasol, singing 'On Mother Kelly's Doorstep'. And if you asked, your mum would say 'yes, that man is dressed like a lady'. End of story. Think no more about it.

Now it's men looking like something from an extreme horror movie, in ripped fishnets, fright wigs and leather (or actually tacky pleather ) bondage gear, chaining each other up in a torture dungeon. On a calendar. Sold to benefit a charity. That purports to 'help' children and young people, who are presumably supposed to embrace all of this sado-masochistic stuff with joyful open arms in the name of 'inclusion'.

I make no bones about it, I'm not a fan of drag no matter what its supposed benign intentions but this? This is repellent, grubby and deeply sinister.

The 'person' 2nd from left is tied to the beam;

I remember ACs ‘bottom of the loft ladder holding a girl guide badge’ picture.

The subtext is ‘we are untouchable.’ Where does such confidence come from i wonder ?

Agree, Zeugma.

Inappropriate, but not surprising. this story peaked 2 of my mates though who have been 'you terf' type commenting me for months and months when I criticize Mermaids. They now suddenly see the problem with this 'charity' and its aims and wants and so on. Amazing how such a positive story can do such a thing to people who previously purposely stuck their heads in the sand

I remember ACs ‘bottom of the loft ladder holding a girl guide badge’ picture

That's truly shocking, I didn't know about that. Where was that published?

Does that mean Aimee not only knew, Aimee thinks it's something to joke about?

I think they deleted that photo but I saw it at the time. There is still one standing at the bottom of the ladder wearing a Stonewall Acceptance without Exception T-shirt

Would you be able to link to it Orchid?

Take a screenshot. Archive if possible

twitter.com/lilylilymaynard/status/1045326441553031168

Lily took a screenshot which is good because last time I looked, the instagram post she linked to was there and now it's gone!