WTAF?

[WokeNotBloke]

Excuse me - I honestly only stepped out for a moment. OK, admittedly, I have been sort of distracted for the last decade - y'know - children- take up a lot of time... no room of my own etc.... But ffs - when I left it was all going very nicely. If used to be that if you wanted to be a little bit radical, you hinted that female sportspersons should be paid like men.... and although there was obviously unequal pay, sexual harassment and you were subjugated by your reproductive role, no one - and I mean no one - was confused about what a woman was.

So literally I just looked away for a few seconds, and wtaf.

There just isn't enough gin in my day, and whilst I'm definitely too old, and too weak to start arguing with everyone again, I find there is just no alternative.

More to my horror, I've woken up to discover that TRAs have taken all the cool jargon. Being "woke" sounds so sorted... and "TW are women" is definitely more catchy -if slightly preposterous. As redress, I decided to reclaim "woke". I'm awake and cross and almost menopausal.

Think like a lot of women I'm just miserably unsure about what to do about it, other than feeling cross.... though I find that is always a useful first step. Thought I would come over and join MN, as I heard you were a bunch of evil harpies, intent on dreadful things [skeptical] Please excuse me whilst I get used to the archaic emoji system - looking forward to chatting.

Welcome!

Here be vipers dragons so enter if you dare!

Welcome Woke! You'll find it all quite informative and reassuring as I did that some sense remains here, amongst the women, the real ones.

Is there a name for a flock/gaggle/meeting/critical mass of nearly menopausal women? I feel there should be and it should be epic.

Welcome. I’m curious to know what tipped you off about our whereabouts, Woke. Was it Twitter? Mainstream media? Seems like every time there is an article castigating MN we get another influx of refugees from Wokedom.

Yes - this happened while I was a bit distracted with the children too.

It's like they waited for most of us to be busy, and then brainwashed the youth of today, into, - errrr - allowing the erasure of women. It's strange when you think about it.

User A 'fury' ?

Welcome, NotBloke! You'll find that whenever you think you've hit the bottom of the rabbit hole it tends to get deeper.

What about the well past post menopausal, 70 something, past Women's Libber, thought the gender stereotyping issue was done and dusted woman. Definitely woke to the idiocy now rampant around the trans issue.

Perfect Weezol.

I like that Weezol!

Sometimes it's often A Bafflement.

🥂 Welcome aboard...

My natural state is wtaf with my jaw on the floor - for over about 20 months now. Mostly lurking but emailing, petitioning and following all the threads.

Welcome! Have you had a look round? There’s a few threads which have a lot of good information and we often recommend them for new people, so if you can put your feet up with a drink and have a read it might be interesting!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

That's also good Angry.

I spend a lot of time alternating between and but tbh it's usually

Ooo yes Weezol!

''The Furies of Greek mythology are monstrous women who lived in the underworld and avenged murders, particularly matricides. In Greek they are called Erinyes, a name thought to have come from the Arcadian word meaning, “to be angry,” hence the English name “Furies.”

The creatures first appear in Homer’s Iliad as punishers of oath-breakers and as embodied curses of parents wronged by their children...in Homer they are more generally enforcers of the proper order of things.''

www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends-europe/legendary-furies-ancient-greek-mythology-002261

Surely a 'flush' of menopausal women?

A “monstrous regiment” isn’t it?

You can use normal emojis
But there's something special about the ancient ones. They kind of say mumsnet to me.

Welcome to the coven! It's a haven of sanity

A fury love it, and always love a bit of mythology.

welcome home Woke

We are the place where wtaf finds its voice

I thought we were a 'toxic hotbed'.

And welcome, Woke.

"Radicalization portal" was a good one too.

Speaking of fury, today I had to google was a furry was. I was quite surprised.

Thanks for the welcome ladies - yes Badger I've read the MN chat forum - I spent hours reading... read all the newspaper reports, read Twitter, watched youtube videos, searched for academic papers... because I kept thinking... I must be missing something. This is insane... I must be missing something....

Had to stop to keep picking up my jaw.... eventually I concluded that the entire world had indeed fallen through the rabbit hole.

As far as I can see, sex continues to be a protected characteristic under the Equality Act, and vaguely thinking you might be female is not. Yet, suddenly it is a hate crime to advocate for single sex spaces. I just don't get it. It's insane. More gin anyone?

OP welcome to peaktrans - try not to let it drive you bonkers! Admittedly some very eloquent and bright women have been warning about this for a long time but unfortunately lots of us didn't notice/listen whilst looking the other way (normally at the dcs) for a few years.
Anyway, roll up your sleeves and see what you can do to redress the imbalance. Speak to people in RL, check out A Woman's Place and Fair Play for Women, become a #StickerWoman (google it or search on this site) - order a load of leaflets from FPFW and use those or make you own, contact your MP, see if there are any gender critical groups near you that you can join, use your economic power, check your local government and other websites and email whenever they conflate gender and sex (particularly where they are talking about protected characteristics (sex is protected - gender is not, gender-realignment is protected self-id/trans is not)....there is a great thread that pulls loads of really fantastic threads into one place with bold headings (hopefully someone has tagged it and can post the link).