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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Advertising standards board rules 'your not a woman until humans come out of your vagina and trample on your dreams' is transphobic

19 replies

QuietContraryMary · 13/01/2019 02:24

Because not all women have vaginas, some women have penises you see. This is horrific hate speech .

adstandards.com.au/cases/2018/December?ref=0532/18

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Yeahnahyeah · 13/01/2019 02:34

So angry at this. And yet Wicked Campers get away with the most awful misogynistic slogans on their vehicles all the time. Help.... I wanna get off, the world has gone bonkers.

Yeahnahyeah · 13/01/2019 02:35

Here are some examples
m.northernstar.com.au/news/worst-wicked-camper-slogans/2982940/

FeckTheMagicDragon · 13/01/2019 02:40

Don’t be silly dear. We all know what a woman is. We all came out of one after all.

WombOfOnesOwn · 13/01/2019 03:03

Imagine if every instance of saying "you're only a man if ___" was policed the same way.

Hell, if you started singing "Blowin' in the Wind," you could get a very different modern version:

How many roads must a man walk down, before you can call him a man?

The answer, my friends, would be transphobic no matter what, the answer would be transphobic no matter what.

thewitchofwentworth · 13/01/2019 03:11

I'm mildly interested to see if a finding of "transphobia" will stop Wicked Campers seeing as they've ignored every other finding of the advertising standards authority because it has no power to enforce its rulings (it's an industry run self-regulation body).

Lichtie · 13/01/2019 08:36

Does it even say who complained. Does everything have to be twisted into a trans issue. The asb found that it was offensive to women who don't have children, women who can't have children women who have a casarean etc or do people really agree you're not a wamoan till you push a child out your vagina?

donquixotedelamancha · 13/01/2019 08:42

How many roads must a man walk down, before you can call him a man?

The answer, my friends, would be transphobic no matter what, the answer would be transphobic no matter what.

This may be the best thing I've ever read on MN. [Tips hat]

MogPlus · 13/01/2019 08:51

"it was offensive to women who don't have children, women who can't have children women who have a casarean etc"

Exactly. I don't think this is an advert to defend really

ChattyLion · 13/01/2019 08:56

Womb that is absolute genius Grin

DaedricLordSlayer · 13/01/2019 09:02

it's a horrible statement. I was a woman long before having kids.

The asb found that it was offensive to women who don't have children, women who can't have children women who have a casarean etc or do people really agree you're not a wamoan till you push a child out your vagina?

exactly

Katvonbatshitmermaid · 13/01/2019 09:03

They have at least mentioned all the biological women who might find it offensive too. We should be thankful for small mercies.

It's an interesting read though, all the different cases. There's so many which are sexist.

I wish I'd complained about one over Christmas in the UK. It was all about a women's dream come true to dressed in sexy bra and knickers (on a giant billboard by a police station). Erm. It's that female dreams? I don't think so. Sounds like a bloke's dream to me.

Also womb Grin

Advertising standards board rules 'your not a woman until humans come out of your vagina and trample on your dreams' is transphobic
Katvonbatshitmermaid · 13/01/2019 09:04

Wicked campers need shutting down. I can't believe what they get away with. They get so much publicity from their edgelording too

WhereYouLeftIt · 13/01/2019 12:44

"The Panel considered that a reference to a female not being a woman until she has had children via vaginal birth is humiliating to women, including those that have had a caesarean delivery, do not have children, are unable to have children, or are transgender."
Yes, transgender is included but it really is tagged on at the end.

Wicked Campers do seem to be a bunch of misogynist arseholes. I'm offended by the ad, so happy that it was found to be offensive. As is so much of their stuff.

Advertising standards board rules 'your not a woman until humans come out of your vagina and trample on your dreams' is transphobic
Funkyfunkybeat12 · 13/01/2019 21:36

What a load of fucking shit, sorry. I have heard many idiots say this offensive rubbish that women don't 'grow up' or 'become human' until they have children. Misogyny at its finest and it's NEVER said to/about men.
I don't think it's transphobic, but I am happy as anything that it has been banned and I would suggest that anyone who thinks this is an acceptable thing to say gives their head a severe shake. How would you like it if someone essentially said you were sub-human due to things that either you had chosen based on your own circumstances or were out of your control? Fuck off.

WongaGoneWronga · 13/01/2019 21:58

The OP title and post are shit stirring and misleading.

The ruling is from the Aussie Ads Standards community panel.

It centres women almost entirely and mentions transgender once only, in the context of listing groups who are likely to feel humiliated by the phrase used.

It doesn't call it transphobic

It doesn't call it hate speech

MargueritaPink · 13/01/2019 22:05

Ain't I woman then? No human has come out of my vagina.

The link doesn't work on my phone so I'm not sure of the context. If I saw it I wouldn't complain to the ASA but I would think "yeah, whatever" and ignore whatever it is trying to peddle.

Doobigetta · 13/01/2019 22:40

Yeah, sorry- 100% on board with adult human female, but I’m not getting behind anything that says I’m not a woman because I haven’t given birth- that can fuck off.

CrazyToast · 13/01/2019 23:06

I found 'trample on your dreams' quite funny but I havent had kids and cant but I'm still a woman and a female.

MargueritaPink · 13/01/2019 23:15

I've just read the Northern Star link. This thread is disgraceful.

Men, women, the local authority and the police all condemning these misogynistic morons. But despite that a couple of posters can't pass over the opportunity to shoe horn trans issues into it and make a cheap point - whilst shooting themselves in the foot.

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