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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Morgane Oger: SEX does not exist

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GrinitchSpinach · 11/01/2019 18:51

Oger and friends protested Meghan Murphy's event at the Vancouver Public Library yesterday (Oger compared it to a "holocaust denial party") and then tweeted this:

Just in case it weren't already clear to everyone that the vocal proponents of gender ideology want to erase women and homoSEXuals...

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GrinitchSpinach · 11/01/2019 22:05

Ok I can't find the thing I was (mis?)remembering, but Oger absolutely supports Balldemort's HRT claims:

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Voice0fReason · 11/01/2019 22:20

If there's no such thing as sex then there can be no such thing as trans.

I wonder if they know where babies come from.

BettyDuMonde · 11/01/2019 22:31

BALLDEMORT!

😂

Ereshkigal · 11/01/2019 23:13

Canadian politics is easy. Just find out what Trump is up to and then take it to the opposite extreme.

Indeed!

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 11/01/2019 23:18

Seems to be something of a hobson's choice between valorisation of rapey male toxic masculinity and valorisation of rapey male toxic femininity

EJennings · 12/01/2019 01:33

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AngryAttackKittens · 12/01/2019 01:43

That's Miss Potatolady, you bigot!

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Candidpeel · 12/01/2019 02:43

The "sex characteristics" not sex thing comes from the Yogyakarta Principles which lots of more serious people and orgs pay some lipservice to.

Its nasty. Coupled with the proposal in the Principles not to register sex at birth, it erases the distinction between women & transwomen because "not all women have a uterus etc..."

NotBadConsidering · 12/01/2019 03:15

It would not surprise me in the slightest to discover the Flat Earth Cruise scheduled for 2020 will depart from Vancouver. What an enigma Canada is...they accept a Saudi refugee who is a refugee because of her sex, but allow people like Oger and Balldemort to exert control over women by denying the existence of sex. Confused

PhoenixBuchanan · 12/01/2019 04:50

This crap is what makes me want to emigrate back to the UK from British Columbia, Brexit and all. Just be thankful you don't have to hear the Ogre being interviewed in their faux-breathy voice on the radio about all things trans-related, as I have to on a semi regular basis! (Our version of the BBC only covers about 4 topics, and naturally trans is one of them).

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 12/01/2019 08:25

Balldemort! I think I love the gender fluid queer non-binary person who coined that term.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 12/01/2019 08:26

(Just wanted to cover all the bases of the person's identity in case of transphobic cishet white literal violence bigotry.)

R0wantrees · 12/01/2019 09:15

Oger is such a tool.

A 'tool' who has yielded considerable power though.
Powerful tools are dangerous tools.

R0wantrees · 12/01/2019 09:20

Background including Oger's bullying of Jana Cornell & Oger's attack of Rape Crisis Centre:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3269698-Morgane-Oger-is-campaigning-to-shut-down-a-rape-crisis-centre-in

GrinitchSpinach · 12/01/2019 14:34

Oger seems to be gearing up for yet another Human Rights Tribunal complaint (has one pending against Bill Whatcott for misgendering and dead naming on a political flyer during the last campaign), this time targeting Meghan Murphy.

Oger is banging on on Facebook that Murphy's speech was "an incitement to discrimination" and claims that this is a violation of Human Rights Code.

Screenshots attached, complete with bizarre lament that it's difficult for 4 year olds to access "bottom surgery" and lots of comparing Murphy to Nazis.

Wake up, BC & Canada at large! These people do not have your children's best interests at heart!

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AngryAttackKittens · 12/01/2019 14:44

the chief librarian of the city of Vancouver assured me I hate propaganda I would not be published using the city-owned library facilities

You what, mate? Oger appear to have gotten Ogerself into such a lather than Ogerself has lost all ability to write coherent sentences.

*She did not define what biological females are, so it is hard to tell what her metric was explicitely."

No it isn't, and Oger knows that as well as anyone else, hence the ragetyping.

RedToothBrush · 12/01/2019 16:39

If sex doesn't exist why is it that only those 'coercively assigned female at birth' , get pregnant? And never those 'coercively assigned male at birth' ?

Causation or correlation?

RedToothBrush · 12/01/2019 16:41

that it's difficult for 4 year olds to access "bottom surgery"

Would that be because of human rights regarding intersex children having surgery they didn't understand at an early age which had life long physical and psychological consequences which were never considered?

Aka human rights not being respected for intersex children?

Ereshkigal · 12/01/2019 17:06

I recommend watching Meghan's excellent event asap in case Oger and certain others manage to get it taken down (YouTube linked in the link):

www.feministcurrent.com/2019/01/11/vancouver-gender-identity-event-a-roaring-success-gidvpl/

Ereshkigal · 12/01/2019 17:08

Of note

twitter.com/MayorWatermelon/status/1083821318217158656?s=20

Ereshkigal · 12/01/2019 17:10

A better person than me wouldn't have laughed.

GrinitchSpinach · 12/01/2019 17:18

I think it was H Heartless who was supposed to speak at the counter-event, but got canceled. KF posted a batshit crazy fantasy HH penned about making TERF lesbians come... Hmm Envy I won't copy it here because no one should have that image in her brain.

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Ereshkigal · 12/01/2019 17:21

I've read it Envy

And also seen the video which is no longer public Envy