It's RAPE - huffpost

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Is huffpost the only one to use the word rape for this case? It's the first one I've seen and good on them for staying the obvious - I hope other news outlets do the same.

The Metro has metro.co.uk/2019/01/08/care-home-boss-quits-after-woman-in-vegetative-state-gives-birth-after-rape-8322561/

I'm pleasantly surprised the CEO has resigned, at least someone has behaved with some honour.
I'm sure they'll find the rapist who fathered the child, but if there was more than one rapist how can they determine who else raped her? I'm inclined to believe there must have been some collusion, as the former caregiver said, how could they not have noticed she was pregnant?

Why are they keeping it open ‘under close supervision’? What does a place have to do to its patients to get closed down?

Finally, thank you Huffpo. NPR refused to use the word rape or even sexual assault on their coverage yesterday, I was disappointed.

Huffpo is annoyingly woke about gender issues but they got this one right.

I’m also annoyed at how quickly the coverage changs from “a man raped an unconscious woman” to “how’d the center not notice she was pregnant”?

Obviously the latter is awful - but I think it’s shameful that in coverage that there was a rapist at all is only alluded to before quickly moving on to the failures of the institution.

Asking male staff for DNA is fine, except for the glaring problems: (1) what if it is a former staff member? Will they still be required to give a DNA sample? and (2) What if it wasn't a staff member?

I was quite upset at how it has been turned into a how the body support a pregnancy whilst the woman is in a coma fascination. A woman was violated in the worst way possible, focus on that FFS!

And there I was thinking Quentin Tarantino was a sick phantasist. Turns out reality is sicker - at least the comatose woman in Kill Bill was not impregnated by her rapist.

deepwatersolo God help me for remembering this but that was only because her injuries and traumatic birth had left Uma Thurman's character wholly infertile. The character selling her off states this explicity to her rapist. So QT did consider it. Sick.

Asking male staff for DNA is fine, except for the glaring problems: (1) what if it is a former staff member? Will they still be required to give a DNA sample? and (2) What if it wasn't a staff member?

The tests are necessary for elimination purposes. If no employees have a match they are all cleared and the police can look elsewhere. But I suspect that one of the staff is shitting himself right now.

I don't know if this was mentioned before here, but the young woman has been confirmed to be an enrolled member of the San Carlos Apache Tribe. Native women and girls are already at such high risk for abuse, rape, and murder. This woman's case is depressing in the extreme.

It could have been a family member or 'friend' visiting, or even a man off the street.

And it's probably been going on a while, to numerous women.

Grinitch

Yes, I saw that today. Yet another layer of vulnerability. Each time you think it can't get any worse, more comes out.

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Indigenous women are treated utterly horribly in the States and Canada. Multiple, generational trauma, compounded by abuse from everywhere. Speaking to some white people they behave as if FN and Indigenous people aren't human. Fucking awful.

I can't stop raging internally about this. Every layer of atrocity untwists and illuminates what we fight for.

Question to caregivers: Is there a better term for "vegetative state"?

There are no words

How disgusting that we cannot protect our most vulnerable women

The other issue with asking for DNA is that it will only show the rapist who fathered this child. It’s horrible but I wouldn’t be surprised if their multiple men raping this poor woman.

It sounds like you are objecting to the DNA testing.

It will catch the man responsible, and if it puts the fear of God in any other guilty men waiting for the results it will at least deter them from trying it with other patients.

No, not at all. I might have phrased it poorly. They should absolutely do DNA testing.

Indigenous women are treated utterly horribly in the States and Canada. Multiple, generational trauma, compounded by abuse from everywhere. Speaking to some white people they behave as if FN and Indigenous people aren't human. Fucking awful.
I've heard of this in Canada, particularly the rape and sexual abuse of indigenous women. I hadn't heard of it in the US, do you think it might be linked to antipathy towards Mexicans? Mexico has the highest number of indigenous people according to wiki link so perhaps racists are conflating the two?

I think there are not even statistics about disappeared native women in the US (contrary to pretty much every other demographic).
The thriller ‚Wind River‘ picks the theme up, recommendable movie imo.

debuk.wordpress.com/2019/01/13/unreasonable-doubt

A linguistics professor comments on the language being used in this case in a feminist language blog