NUS Trans Conference

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So was just looking at NUS website to see if there was any news on Jess Bradley (nothing posted yet but their profile is still there) Wanted to see who was the LGBT+ Officer (Women’s Place) and saw it was someone called Eden Ladley. News on the site about a NUS Trans Conference this month so went over to their Twitter and saw that bursaries were available for Transwomen and transpeople of Colour to attend... but no mention of Transmen at all (although I suppose they are obviously entitled to bursaries if they’re not white) Someone has asked whether Transmen are entitled to a bursary but as of 23hrs later there hadn’t been a reply. Is it just a typo do you think?

How disgusting that they would exclude transmen from a bursary at an event for trans student politics.

Though, it is only people who ’define as..’ who can get or not get a bursary.. so surely if transmen wished to darken the door of such an unwelcoming event they could always ‘define as’ the category permitted to get a bursary?

I'm really offended by this thread. Someone send pizza and I'll also accept a donation to my PayPal.

I excitedly clicked on this thread expecting this year's conference to have been cross booked with the border collie kennel club's AGM.

Though, it is only people who ’define as..’ who can get or not get a bursary.. so surely if transmen wished to darken the door of such an unwelcoming event they could always ‘define as’ the category permitted to get a bursary?

I hope they do this.

I excitedly clicked on this thread expecting this year's conference to have been cross booked with the border collie kennel club's AGM.

Rather than the Border force

Rose of Dawn has some interesting suggestions as to why the Trans Conference might be so much earlier this year and how this might be related to Jess Bradley's suspension.

'BRADPOCALYPSE SOON! Could Jess Bradley be gone by end of the month?'
Published on 9 Jan 2019
"After countless months, we could finally learn the fate of NUS Trans officer and alleged flasher Jess Bradley on 31 January 2019. The saga is coming to an end. Bring it on."

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=g5tmTvHDzRk

Motion 202 is quite a good read..... :

Motion 202 Developing our approach on the GRA reform

Submitted by: NUS Trans Students' Campaign Committee

Conference Believes

1. In 2018 NUS ran a campaign encouraging students and students unions to respond to a public consultation on reforms to the Gender Recognition Act.
2. During this process, transmisogynistic organisations such as Fair Play for Women and Women’s Place UK have encouraged people to write anti-trans submissions, including relying on legal inaccuracies about equalities legislation.
3. The past few years in particular have featured a massive attack on trans people, particularly targeted at trans women, young trans people and trans people of colour.
4. Reform to the GRA in England and Wales is likely to be introduced in Westminster in following the summer recess in 2019.
5. NUS Trans Campaign has existing policy which broadly sets out an approach to NUS’ position on the Gender Recognition Act.
6. There are currently no plans to introduce legal gender recognition reform in Northern Ireland.
7. The Scottish Parliament has suggested broadly good proposals, including non-binary legal recognition

Conference Further Believes

1. We have seen transphobic statements and rhetoric from members of many parties represented in Westminster. There isn’t a party that has a uniformly good position on trans issues.
2. While reforms to the GRA will have a relatively small material impact, the role discussion of the reforms has had on the discourse around the alleged “danger” of trans people has been incredibly toxic and created a dangerous environment for trans people.
3. Trans people in Northern Ireland deserve a better form of legal gender recognition than is currently available.
4. In order to make a good piece of legislation pass, it may be necessary to lobby all major political parties rather than just rely on lobbying progressive parties.

Conference Resolves

1. To make the primary legislative project of the NUS Trans Campaign passing a reforms to legal gender recognition.
2. To build in a critique of transphobia, transmisogyny and trans-exclusionary feminism into lobbying efforts, working with organisations such as Sister Not Cister.
3. To support NUS Scotland and their LGBT+, Trans and Women’s Campaigns in bringing in legal gender recognition through Holyrood.
4. To support NUS-USI, specifically their LGBT+, Trans and Women’s Liberation Campaigns in bringing in legal gender recognition, whether through Stormont or Westminster depending on NUS-USI policy.
5. In lobbying for legal gender recognition, to work with all mainstream parties.

It's nice they recognise the severe underrepresentation of transwomen within the transgender movement. Clearly, TW have not had enough say so far.

Interesting that they believe that changes to the GRA are likely to be introduced after summer recess later this year...

Could I get a bursary if I identified as a natal female who believes they are genderqueer? Or a natal females who identifies as a transman but who presents as a transwoman? Can I identify as black to tick another box? If I'm identifying as a natal female who identifies as a transman and exclusively dates men, I could add being gay to my tick list, perhaps

First I've heard of transmen being seen as 'privileged' in that world, how bizarre.

Anyway, looking forward to a Scotsman rocking up in his kilt and them trying to work out if he's privileged or not.

Could I get a bursary if I identified as a natal female who believes they are genderqueer? Or a natal females who identifies as a transman but who presents as a transwoman? Can I identify as black to tick another box? If I'm identifying as a natal female who identifies as a transman and exclusively dates men, I could add being gay to my tick list, perhaps

I'd also need to identify as a student, but given that I actually was once a student, that's perhaps the smallest reach

Eden Ladley's spiel on the GRA consultation here and the NUS guidance to completing the consultation here

Contains such gems as "Nor have cases of men falsely
changing gender for nefarious purposes
been a significant issue in the UK since
either the Equality Act 2010 or the Gender
Recognition Act 2004 came into force," (because obviously if only some men abuse the system - and therefore abuse women - that's OK )

How disgusting that they would exclude transmen from a bursary at an event for trans student politics

I really really want a white transman to self I’d as a black man, just to see their reaction.

They really don’t like women, no matter how they identify, do they.

Omg
This event was the best last year

Can’t wait
Rember when they all got stuck in the ladies loos and were crying for fags and pizzas.
Haha best ever

The bursary probs just a mega bus pass

Ooo last years conference was about when I started reading FWR, just as well I'd peak transed before then, I was mostly wtf about the NUS trans conf thread

I cant work out where a trans man would stand if they tried to use the Equality Act to claim discrimination over the bursary.

Trans people in Northern Ireland deserve a better form of legal gender recognition than is currently available.
Do they mean that they should be treated as women? Because at the moment sex matters, eg biological men are housed in mens prisons, and I'm pretty sure someone on the FWR board predicted that wouldn't last.

I cant work out where a trans man would stand if they tried to use the Equality Act to claim discrimination over the bursary.

It would be interesting! I think they'd have a reasonably good case because they'd have to claim sex discrimination.

The ground floor toilets at the venue are already mixed sex. You have to go u- one floor to access the single sex ones.

Be interesting to see how many conference attendees go for validation, rather than convenience?

The bar is open to the public, btw, should anyone fancy meeting up for a drink...

Oh can you imagine.....
Live t*rfs are probably even worse than the Boarder Force.

To the tune of 🎵 ‘it’s all about the bass’ 🎶

It’s all about the boys, ‘bout the boys
Not winnim’
All about their feelz, and their looks
And their winnin’

Chilling thread by Rosa Freedman:

mobile.twitter.com/GoonerProf/status/1084928283228192769

I'm reallay worried by how unbalanced and one-sided this is. Shouldn't these organizations be neutral on these isssues?

I just don't want my kids to go to university now. I don't want their heads being filled with this totalitarian bullshit

Two things stand out to me as absolute evidence that the trans movement is all about male rights. One is the inclusion of transwomen, but not transmen, in the Masons, and the other is the fact that transmen cannot inherit hereditary titles.

Then there's this - transmen being marginalised in the NUS Trans Conference. Women (the cunty kind) are constantly marginalised. It's in plain sight.

I'm really worried about our universities as well. I'm hoping it's restricted to certain pockets - gender studies and social science etc - my children will be studying stuff like maths & computing (if they go at all). Selfish of me, I know.But I wouldn't want them embroiled in this crap - they're naturally gender critical, as that is how they have been raised by both DH and me.