Mermaids given £500,000 by National Lottery (Sunday Times)

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A transgender charity that campaigns for children to be given prohibited sex-change treatment has been awarded £500,000 by the national lottery.

The payment to Mermaids has angered MPs, feminists and women’s organisations, who accuse the charity of bullying doctors, promoting falsehoods and using “emotional blackmail” to pressure parents to support life-changing medical interventions for their children. Mermaids will use the money to create a network of 45 groups nationwide.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/child-sex-change-charity-handed-500-000-by-national-lottery-dvbt7t2kb?shareToken=cd8d6faad97cd9dd3fe3f16eb3810f45

All funding should be considered with a fine tooth comb. Just because an organisation asks for funding it doesn’t make them virtuous.

^^ this

You do have to wonder if it was the comments they received from Mermaids supporters that led them to think that it might be worth giving the decision to donate to them a second look...

And the idea that we must have ‘education’ on gender in schools.

No no no. Let children be children. Teach them that they can be more than just a narrow stereotype. We do not need toxic gender read men telling our young girls that unless they’re hyper feminine they’re a boy. We do not need little boys who like to play with dolls told they’re girls.

Last week I’ve found my little boy playing with cars (Monday) magformers (Tuesday) and havibg a tea party with a gaggle of girls inside a pink cardboard castle at nursery (Wednesday.) he’s a boy, he can play with whatever he likes. If I heard some organisation was going in to tell him that was wrong I’d hit the roof.

Sorry English was a bit crap but I’m multitasking.

Fuck off away from the children, you dangerous person

I agree with Lang

Did diet just say that safeguarding doesn’t apply to educating children and would give diets opinion on the safeguarding once they seen them

Bloody hell

If you were to put together a list of the personality traits common among supporters of genderism "completely unwarranted belief that one knows better than the unwoke about every issue" would be high on the list.

David Davies has commented on this now, interesting how he says concerns come from across the political spectrum talkradio.co.uk/news/david-davies-welcomes-big-lottery-funds-review-grant-transgender-charity-18121729229?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1545060205

If you were to put together a list of the personality traits common among supporters of genderism "completely unwarranted belief that one knows better than the unwoke about every issue" would be high on the list.

Did diet just say that safeguarding doesn’t apply to educating children and would give diets opinion on the safeguarding once they seen them

It's a fucking cult, isn't it - this 'trans takes precedence over everything belief?

This same poster said more or less what Susie Green did about the 'collateral damage' issue of children being medicalised who might otherwise have desisted...

If you were to put together a list of the personality traits common among supporters of genderism "completely unwarranted belief that one knows better than the unwoke about every issue" would be high on the list.

David Davies has commented on this now, interesting how he says concerns come from across the political spectrum talkradio.co.uk/news/david-davies-welcomes-big-lottery-funds-review-grant-transgender-charity-18121729229?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1545060205

David Davies has commented on this now, interesting how he says concerns come from across the political spectrum talkradio.co.uk/news/david-davies-welcomes-big-lottery-funds-review-grant-transgender-charity-18121729229?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1545060205

If you were to put together a list of the personality traits common among supporters of genderism "completely unwarranted belief that one knows better than the unwoke about every issue" would be high on the list.

I would need to see the safeguarding procedures to determine my opinion on them

Diet: Stop being mean to Mermaids.

Posters on this thread: We are not. They don't apply safeguarding. This is bad. It places children at risk of harm by removing protection from them.

Diet: I don't understand safeguarding. I'd need to read up on it to have any opinion on safeguarding and whether Mermaids might be breaking safeguarding protocols. But stop being mean to Mermaids anyway cos I don't like it and you just are all talking about this because you are transphobic and ignorant.

Posters on this thread: So you don't understand safeguarding?

Diet: Correct I have no clue what you are talking about. So I'm just going to call you transphobic to cover up my own lack of knowledge when it comes to vulnerable children. And not bother to listen, learn or educate myself about it. Cos that would be transphobic to do so as it might mean I might have to criticise Mermaids, and there are no circumstances whatsoever in which this should happen because all the Mermaids do work that is amazingly important.

Posters on this thread: So there should be no scrunity of how Mermaids operate because they help trans children? And Mermaids are incapable of making a mistake, because of the glitter and rainbows they support.

Diet: Correct. Trans children are the most vulnerable children there are, so we should suspend safeguarding protocols because this will protect them.

Posters on this thread: You say you want to protect children, but you said you didn't know what safeguarding was...

Diet: Transphobes!!! Shut up transphobes. Go educate yourselves.

Ok.
Yet this is where we are at. This is how the last couple of pages have gone.

PROTECTING CHILDREN IS ABOUT HOLDING EVERYONE TO ACCOUNT AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW EVERYONE, AND ANYONE OPERATIONS WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

Holding people to the same standards of protection is the very opposite of discrimination. We are discriminating against trans kids if we DON'T ask questions about safeguarding of the charities that profess to support them as they would have a lower threshold of safeguarding if we failed to.

I think the greatest weakness of organisations like this is that they simply do not understand the ferocity of a parents love, that they would lay down their lives for their children. Woe betide anyone who threatens the safety, happiness and security of their children.

Sorry for the multiple posts, everyone, the site was acting up for me.

PROTECTING CHILDREN IS ABOUT HOLDING EVERYONE TO ACCOUNT AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW EVERYONE, AND ANYONE OPERATIONS WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

Louder and again and again. Safeguarding children is a societal role and no charity or persons should be exempt from public scrutiny if they work with children.

I see the Big Lottery Fund have announced they’re “reviewinf“ the donation. No idea what that means in real terms. Won’t they look bad if they withdraw it? Especially in light of all the Twitter comments urging them not to be “on the wrong side of history” (that old chestnut) and saying that Mermaids carry out “life saving work”. Sigh

I wonder if the lawyer person who dislikes mumsnet will be along in a minute to threaten suing them again. Wish I could recall her name, her twitter page was enlightening.

Won’t they look bad if they withdraw it?

No, they will look principled.
They may be aware they will of course also look extremely bad if they go ahead with the funding when - inevitably - the damage and courtcases arising from inappropriate medical interventions start to emerge.

Of course, they should have assessed Mermaids better in the first place, but it's good they're reviewing now that concerns have been raised. There are doubtless many truly worthy causes they can support instead.

That's a good point. If they donate after information such as the connection with Webberly was available to them, and there are lawsuits later, can they be considered liable in some way in that they would have helped to fund what happened?

Sorry for the multiple posts, everyone, the site was acting up for me.

Me too!

Wow, Twitter is going nuts about the ‘shit house terfs from Mumsnet.’

Because it’s a children’s charity it should be immune from any kind of investigation apparently

Meanwhile, in the non-cult universe, most people recognize that charities or any other organizations that work with children should be subject to higher than average levels of scrutiny precisely because the wellbeing of children is at stake.