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Steven Doughty MP attacks Janice Turner as "shrill" [hmm]

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kesstrel · 12/12/2018 11:55

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1072790462707191808

Running true to form, it would appear....

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ArcheryAnnie · 12/12/2018 12:03

He's got a bingo card somewhere for when he's talking to women he doesn't like, and the other squares presumably read "hysterical", "over-emotional", "aggressive", "frigid" (thanks but no thanks, MyBloodyPeriod, for reminding me of that one), "bossy" and "unfeminine".

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 12/12/2018 12:10

Oh dear Stephen

throwing around accusations about Janice 'using inflammatory language and whipping up prejudice', yet utterly unable to provide any examples

a very familiar modus operandi. I guess I naively expected better from an MP

solidarity Janice and sorry you have to put up with this sexist prejudice

Popchyk · 12/12/2018 12:11

God, he really is an idiot.

Funny how he doesn't consider Andrew Gilligan (who has written about the subject in robust terms) "shrill".

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 12/12/2018 12:16

james Kirkup wrote a pretty damning piece about him

accusations of shrillness (shrillosity?) came there none

funny that

he's a sexist man

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 12/12/2018 12:18

it's this charmer

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-are-some-mps-trying-to-shut-down-the-transgender-debate/

Popchyk · 12/12/2018 12:21

Ha. Janice has asked him to point to examples of instances in which she was “shrill” and what rights she wishes to deny trans people.

He seems to have left the thread at that point.

arranbubonicplague · 12/12/2018 12:24

he doesn't consider Andrew Gilligan (who has written about the subject in robust terms) "shrill".

Or James Kirkup, presumably?

Richard Garside is a useful GC commenter with a specific interest in Crime & Justice - maybe he should be assigned to the 'shrill' club by Doughty.

Any GC feminist ally - the snap logic of Doughty calls them shrill. That must make the Private Bill blocker Supreme, Christopher Chope (?), a complete basso profundo.

LangCleg · 12/12/2018 12:30

You'd think we'd manage MPs of a better quality, wouldn't you?

But nope, ignorant throwback sexism is de rigueur.

ChewyLouie · 12/12/2018 13:41

He’s one of the MPs for Cardiff. Wouldn’t his time be better spent working with other Cardiff MPs to improve the safety of women in his city (for example at the Cameo Club) rather than trying to put female journalists in their place? He comes across as a bullying misogynist, hope he can show everyone he’s actually better than that.
As for shrill it’s akin to limp wristed and mincing- ignorant cheap slurs spoken by ignorant people.

Imnobody4 · 12/12/2018 13:50

Saw him interrogating the press at a hate crimes committee. He was gunning for Janice then. He was channelling Joe McCarthy -truly frightening.

Popchyk · 12/12/2018 13:53

These are orchestrated attacks on individual women, aren't they? Done to harass the women themselves and to deter other people from speaking out.

With certain MPs very eager to play their part in the harassment.

McCarthyism is right.

R0wantrees · 12/12/2018 16:05

twitter.com/FeministRoar/status/1072792622547304448

Does anyone have a link to that early day motion by Stephen Doughty MP?
I've seen it but can't find it.
It was presented when the Conservatives stalled on pushing through Maria Miller's proposals.

Its worth being aware of it & who signed it.

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arranbubonicplague · 12/12/2018 16:11

This one?

[[https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/50820/transgender-rights]

arranbubonicplague · 12/12/2018 16:11

edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/50820/transgender-rights

TwistedStitch · 12/12/2018 16:14

Apparently it's fine for him to use the word 'shrill' and not sexist AT ALL because he can sing falsetto don't you know? Hmm

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R0wantrees · 12/12/2018 16:17

Stephen Doughty with Benjamin Cohen and Baroness Liz Barker all of whom have been at the forefront of denying women's rights in their support of trans-ideology.
(this was just before the Govt consultation on GRA closed)

"LGBT Leaders: Lawmakers reject radical feminist transphobia"
by Sofia Lotto Persio 12th October 2018
(extract)

"LGBT+ people should be supporting the trans community in the reform of the Gender Recognition Act (GRA), a panel of LGBT+ politicians said on Friday (October 12).

With only a week to go before the public consultation on the GRA reform closes, support for transgender rights dominated a discussion on the future of LGBT+ rights in the UK at opening evening of the LGBT Leaders conference, presented by PinkNews and hosted by Freshfields.

“Within the [LGBT] community, the four initials right now, there is no excuse to do anything other than supporting one another,” said Baroness Liz Barker, a Liberal Democrat peer who publicly came out during the passage of the Marriage Act in 2013.

Baroness Barker commended Prime Minister Theresa May for choosing to champion transgender equality, but criticised how long it took for the government to launch the consultation, in July, after first announcing plans to reform the GRA in October.

That delay, according to Baroness Barker, allowed “self-identified radical feminists” to organise and “put together a whole series of assumptions and generalisations.” She compared the strategies adopted by these groups to those historically adopted by people “to foster hatred agains minorities” and called for people to “reclaim feminism.”

Stephen Doughty, Labour and Co-operative Parliamentary MP for Cardiff South and Penarth, also tapped on the viciousness of the debate surrounding the consultation and compared some of the headlines published with relations to trans issues to those that a few decades ago would be directed at LGB people.

“For the vast majority of trans people who want to get on with their lives this is incredibly damaging,” Doughty said.

Baroness Barker advised people to take part in the consultation, to talk respectfully to trans people—keeping in mind how personal this conversation may be for them—and to talk to your MP." (continues)

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/10/12/lgbt-leaders-lawmakers-reject-radical-feminist-transphobia/

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R0wantrees · 12/12/2018 16:25

Thanks arran yes that's great.

Its important people are aware of this and all of the signatories.
(Stephen Whittle said recently he was confident that 'they had Labour in the bag')

pictured left are the main sponsors with Stephen Doughty shown as the primary sponsor.

10 October 2017
2017-19 Session
"That this House agrees that the recommendations of the Women and Equalities Committee report on transgender equality needs to be implemented in full; believes that gender identity includes those who do not identify as either male or female, identify as both, a third gender or are fluid in their identity; notes that long waiting times for gender identity treatment can do harm to patients who should not have to wait longer than the targets for specialist referral; recognises that verbal, physical and sexual assaults towards those with a non-cis gender identity is the highest of all minority hate-crime, with over half of transgender women reporting they have been sexually or physically assaulted; calls on the Government to update the protected characteristic in the Equalities Act 2010 from gender reassignment to gender identity with a statutory code that includes non-binary identities; recommends that specialist GPs should be trained so that they can provide bridging hormones while patients wait to see specialist centres; and further recommends bringing LGBT hate crimes into line with hate crimes based on race and faith by making them aggravated offences."

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