Period poverty / 'bleeders'

[Beagadorsrock]

"
❤️Jane Austen was a Super Plus fan, Lizzie preferred a Mooncup + Emma didn't leave Hartfield without her Thinx. But some bleeders in the UK can't afford sanitary products, imagine the scandal at the ball!💃🏽 Donate to @bloodygood__ this Festive Period & help someone's #flowhoho❣️"

twitter.com/ladycariad/status/1072068738147631104

Very disappointing. I can't believe we are back in the Middle Ages so comprehensively.
And no, using 'bleeder' is not "more inclusive" because it includes trans men. It is massively, massively reducing women to a (distasteful and historically considered 'impure') bodily function.

Can I start referring to men as "standuppissers"?

I bet next to no men (or ejaculators, as absolutely no one calls them - wonder why?) donate to this charity. So, good work alienating your chief donors and your beneficiaries....

Still the TRAs are happy. Wake the fuck up, woke Gabby.

HTF does "bleeders" even work for a target audience like asylum seekers who will mostly have English as a second language? It's like the "cervix havers" literature encouraging women people to go for a smear test, and as a result making the campaign irrelevant to the many who won't understand that it is supposed to speak to them

A very good point, Olanna The woke brigade seem to me to be overwhelming middle-class and white and very poor at putting themselves into other people's shoes.

It makes me so angry when they reduce women to terms like this.

Last time I checked every single member of the human race loses blood at some time or other. My DS cut his hand the other day and he was a bleeder. As a descriptor it completely fails to narrow down it’s target demographic. Just looks like being nasty for being nasty’s sake to me.

In German, "Bluter" (which is the literal translation of "bleeder") is another word for haemophiliac, i.e. someone whose blood doesn't clot and who therefore needs intensive medical care for minor injuries. A genetic disease that mostly affects men.

I am sure other languages provide "amusing" potential for misunderstandings, too.

So yeah. Not likely that any woman who speaks English as second language will understand that she's supposed to be a "bleeder".

Offering "tampons for bleeders" will only make women annoyed that there's charities for men with rare genetic diseases who could also go to the NHS for their medical care, but none for women ...

This false assumption that to be inclusive means using words and language that are just awful towards women! You can include transmen and non-binary women by simply referring to them, it's not hard.

Or you just write "women" and expect them to understand that, biologically, they very much belong to that category and shouldn't be so silly. (I also doubt that there's many transmen and enbys who can't afford pads. People who suffer from period poverty have more important problems than their gender identity.)

I don't think anyone anywhere calls for "ejaculators" to have their prostate checked.

Hestia - the second definition of 'bleeder' (after the derogatory one I quoted upthread)in English dictionaries is also along the lines of 'a person who bleeds easily, especially a haemophiliac.'

Dunno about you, I wouldn't call a period 'bleeding easily'. Inconvenient and painful.

Female would include everyone including transgirls and transmen.

Have transmen actually campaigned for this name change? Have they chosen ‘bleeders’ as a replacement? Who decided all this? I have only known two transmen in my life, one I was close to for a time ( we suffered a lot of the same hormonal illness ). I highly doubt they would be comfortable with the term ‘bleeder’.

You have a period = you are a woman. Not a trans man but a woman. Not all women have periods but all people who have periods are woman.

If you are bleeding from between your legs and a man then it’s most likely haemorrhoids.

That’s biology. That pesky science.

Why have we descended into the arguments of three year olds?

I see the prostate cancer charity page, quite rightly, has the word men all over it.
www.prostatecanceruk.org

So it’s only women being reduced to this then.

George the Bleeder used to come and do tests on the cattle when I was a child. Can't remember if it was for TB or brucellosis or what. I expect he had an actual surname, but I never knew it.

Aside from the awful "bleeders", does anyone else think the entire message is unfunny and badly-written? Why does that first sentence include one real person and two fictional ones? What do Jane Austen heroines have to do with the problems of modern day women having periods, anyway? It's surely an invitation to the hardhearted to point out that Lizzie, Emma and Austen herself would all have used rags and therefore women today could do the same. The whole thing seems tone deaf.

Isn’t that what vampires call humans? I’m filma obviously. They’re not real 🧛‍♀️

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Oh that’s interesting. The cervical cancer charity were very rude and dismissive when I emailed about the cervix havers nonsense.

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I’ve looked at their campaigns and tweets... it’s all rather childish and not funny or amusing at all. What the f with #flohoho I don’t find that remotely funny and I’m an incredibly funny person 😂 I know it’s all supposed to be light hearted? Normalising periods? I don’t know. But I’ve never understood the need to do that with menstruation. It’s weird and not that clever.

I agree the whole thing is naff as well as disrespectful.

I don’t find that remotely funny and I’m an incredibly funny person

Yeah... the thing about having a good sense of humour (something women are often inaccurately told they don't have) is that you can tell the difference between 'funny' and 'insultingly crass'.

Women can’t afford to buy Sanpro.

They are most likely ashamed, desperate. This can’t be all that’s going on in their lives.

Refugees - possibly from a place where you just don’t discuss these things in public (possible religious rules make it so that you have to keep away from men, not cook etc) just trying to live, Don’t give a shit about gender politics beyond bit getting married off to an old man as a child.

And these idiots try to make it into a right on joke? They aren’t doing it seriously are they? Sounds like an art school project.

That’s weird and gross. Makes me think of the use of breeders to refer to straight people.

They've issued a statement. What doesn't seem to occur to their woke little brains is that women and girls in period poverty are quite likely not to have English as a first language and/or poor education and literacy skills. Communicating in a clear way is absolutely crucial in reaching the very women who need their help. And they appear to be singularly ill-equipped to do that.

They can bleeding well piss off then. Are they a charity then? Get funding do they?

This is just a jolly hockey sticks jape for them, eh?

Do they ever meet these desperate women in person? I suspect not or they wouldn’t dehumanise them like this.

Who is in charge there?

What do they think they’ve personally done to make periods ‘discussable’ exactly? Someone’s got an over-inflated sense of self importance. Nobody I know discusses it remotely in the same way they do.... They’re a teeny charity that’s offended the very people they’re asking for money from and their response is to say it’s taken out of context? Really? We shouldn’t get offended by a joke? That didn’t work for Kevin Hart, so I don’t see why it should work for this organisation.

www.bloodygoodperiod.com

Not for profit. I don't think they get funding but they do focus on asylum seekers who are possibly a bit mystified at being referred to as bleeders.

I suspect I am not the only one to pick up a sense of fetish.

Not that long ago someone posted a link to a chat room where a M-F transitioner was asking whether they should carry spare tampons in their handbag in case they were asked. And I recall something a bit more pervy where a bloke was offering to help instruct young teens on how to insert tampons. It part of the taking over the spaces. A sort of control on womanhood.

Yes poverty, and that will include period poverty. But give the money to charities supporting refugees. They will be able to spend it on tampons and other things like underwear which are needed.