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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Apparently there's a war on

20 replies

RadicalFern · 05/12/2018 15:31

This poster is up in my university. Can't decide whether to go to the meeting or not...

Apparently there's a war on
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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/12/2018 15:33

Although if you could bear it, it sounds as if it could be ... interesting.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/12/2018 15:37

it's always personal isn't it?

It's not Trans Exclusive Radical Feminism that's dangerous

It's Trans Exclusive Radical Feminists

the people themselves. they just hate feminists don't they? sigh

User10fuckingmillion · 05/12/2018 15:41

Capitalism? Hmm
They are just making things up

MadamBatty · 05/12/2018 15:43

& the prison system wtf? & fighting the fairies at the end of the garden, they’re terrrifying.

VictoryOrValhalla · 05/12/2018 15:48

Oh I would have to go if I was near. Always helpful to know what you’re up against.

TheChampagneGalop · 05/12/2018 15:49

I think you should go. Know your enemy and all that.

arranbubonicplague · 05/12/2018 15:50

I'd definitely go if I weren't already at an event this evening!

AncientLights · 05/12/2018 15:50

Have you got a poker face? If you can bear to sit and listen to their self-serving crap & keep a straight face, please go and report back to us.

StarsAndWater · 05/12/2018 15:53

'fighting racism, sexism..' That's ironic.
How do they square that up with dismissing women's concerns about sex based oppression?
And who's to bet they use that horribly racist 'subset of women' argument to argue that trans women are like black women.

RadicalFern · 05/12/2018 16:02

I'll see how I'm feeling when the time comes, and whether I think I'm able to bear the inevitable word salad

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HestiaParthenos · 05/12/2018 16:20

they just hate feminists don't they?

Very obviously.

Have you got a poker face? If you can bear to sit and listen to their self-serving crap & keep a straight face, please go and report back to us.

Yeah. If you are ready ... if you are prepared ...

A very good poker face is absolutely required.

MadamBatty · 05/12/2018 16:33

You may also have to glue your eyeballs in place to stop them rolling into the back of your head.

BlytheSpiritsSpirit · 05/12/2018 16:37

Wish I could go. Sounds fascinating.... sadly don't live nearby.

groundcontroltomontydon · 05/12/2018 16:38

It really is the ideology of the non sequitur

LikeDust · 05/12/2018 16:47

So right. Feminists are women. Radical feminists are often lesbians and middle-aged or older.

So fucking dangerous.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 05/12/2018 17:09

I'm not far away from Russell Square. First issue that springs to mind, after having read the transcript of the Leeds meeting, is that I'm likely to die of boredom before the meeting closed. I've never read such woefully inarticulate cobblers in a long time

RadicalFern · 05/12/2018 17:55

Yes. I'm currently listening to a very interesting presentation about poems written by Chinese courtesans, and am loathe to leave it early to listen to nonsense.

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clitterati · 06/12/2018 00:56

You really didn't miss much.

But for anyone who is interested in excessive amounts of non-sensical word salad, here's the recording I made at the Leeds event.

I think they have the same script everywhere they go...

Sister not Cister- Leeds 21.11.18

Well, for anyone who’s interested - here is a sound recording of the ‘Why we fight the TERF wars’ event by Sister not Cister, (who are a Trans Rights Activist group), in Leeds tonight.

They are on a countrywide tour, spreading misogynistic rubbish about “why TERFs are dangerous”, and discussing a range of political action responses to the gender critical movement.

There were about 30 people, mostly young woke folk, a handful of trans women, some non-binaries, a very vocal mother of a trans kid, and lots of woke bros and handmaidens.
The main speakers were a transwoman and a transman.

They had password protected tickets for this free event, were questioning people on the door about their allegiances, were very vocal and hostile about not letting any terfs in, and were very paranoid about people filming or recording the event (tee hee hee !!), repeatedly asking for people to put their phones in their pockets.

I look forward to any deconstruction of this hugely inaccurate and wildly misrepresentative demonisation of the gender critical movement.

The whole thing was severely lacking in any kind of facts, statistical data or evidence base, as well as any kind of critical analysis or structured political narrative. It was the most non-sensical, contradictory and hypercritical virtue-signalling load of rubbish I’ve ever heard.

And makes me wonder how the trans lobby has made it this far, and extended this amount of influence, if this is the calibre of their campaign.

In short, a lot of self-indulgent victim claiming, a lot of scape-goating of radical feminists, with undertones of incitement to violence, without being explicit.

Please feel free to download and distribute freely to whoever you think should hear this 😉

Enjoy 😉

Sound recording of Sister not Cister - 1hr 50mins meeting in Leeds 21.11.18

www.dropbox.com/s/rztaberkuqtqzxa/Sister%20Not%20Cister%20-%20Leeds%2021.11.18.m4a?dl=0

AngryAttackKittens · 06/12/2018 01:03

If it doesn't specifically ban recording devices you should go and record it, and then find people willing to transcribe so you don't have to do it all yourself.

IdaBWells · 06/12/2018 01:39

I am listing to what clitterati posted in Dropbox, and so far after listening to the first 5-10 minutes it’s such a bunch of nonsense and exactly the word salad described. It is so frustrating that anyone could take this stuff seriously as their arguments are illogical, inaccurate and jump around. They constantly want to demonize the opinions of “TERFs” but the majority of people in this county hold those opinions.

They also try and imply that anyone who holds a “TERF opinion”, that is, that men and women can be identified by their biology and that is how most people are categorized then they are NOT working class and that somehow to hold a belief in science and biology makes you an oppressor who tries to prevent working-class people from accessing state services. By not talking clearly about women (you know the biological kind) they claim that these ghostly, powerful figures that are TERFs are preventing transwomen i.e.men from accessing any space they want. Bollocks.

The issue is that regular women with vaginas don’t want people with penises, that is men, in their single-sex protected spaces. They immediately confuse the issue. I hate to think that so many of the audience members lack the ability to be logical thinkers. Are they really so badly educated, whether by schools or political movements and parties?

The transwoman on the recording is clearly a biological man, you can hear by the voice and the transman is clearly a biological woman. Their biology is as clear as day. That is what they are denying or ignoring in this discussion however.

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