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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

2018 Asian Women's Handball Championship

64 replies

Freespeecher · 04/12/2018 11:33

Guess how many teams only featured biological women before clicking the link.

twitter.com/isacsohn/status/1069697852421668865?s=20

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Rattinghat · 04/12/2018 22:31

Might wanna keep an eye on this this week:
www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2018/dec/04/the-100-best-female-footballers-in-the-world-2018

AngryAttackKittens · 04/12/2018 22:57

Didn't Hannah Mouncey used to play handball? Does Hannah have an equally large sibling?

AngryAttackKittens · 04/12/2018 22:59

Oh, looks like it is Hannah. So lovely to see Hannah again.

Hmm
Katvonblackdeath · 04/12/2018 23:11

Thanks orchid

Terfing · 04/12/2018 23:29

Those photos say it all really. I feel awful for the natal women caught up in this. There isn't much they can do.

WrathofbubonicKlop · 05/12/2018 00:02

Upstart
There is a world wide assault on women's rights, in every major culture

This^^

SignMeUp · 05/12/2018 00:08

On twitter Mouncey goes on about how progressive Iran is. When challenged, can't see past the trans part.

Yeahnahyeah · 05/12/2018 00:14

So I'm confused.... Is it true that most of the Iranians in the team are trans or not? I gather from previous posts (or I read it somewhere) that in Iran homosexuality is punishable by death so the workaround is to transition them? Is this correct? **head spinning... If it IS correct, same concerns IMHO, but the narrative around Mouncey needs to change a bit to encompass this? Chances are I've gone down the wrong path, but would love some clarification ( was that YouTube video showing them mainly trans a hoax or not?)

ErrolTheDragon · 05/12/2018 00:20

So I'm confused.... Is it true that most of the Iranians in the team are trans or not?

No, my understanding is that all of this Iranian handball team are women. It's their 'womens' soccer team which has a lot of trans players.

arranbubonicplague · 05/12/2018 00:20

The Iran Women's Football team has trans women members according to reports.

The Iran Women's Handball team seems to consist entirely of women.

The football team discussion was a side-discussion in response to the disadvantage of muslim countries - and muslim women in particular.

Yes, in Iran - gender reassignment is the preferred option to homosexuality as the latter is illegal and punishable.

www.alaraby.co.uk/english/society/2018/5/21/transgender-people-in-iran-face-discrimination-despite-fatwa

Yeahnahyeah · 05/12/2018 00:29

Thankyou ArronBubonic and Dragon. I have a bad rash and bruising on my chin due to how many times my jaw has hit the floor since peaktransing 2 weeks ago.

AngryAttackKittens · 05/12/2018 01:05

The woman in the hijab who Mouncey was looming over looks tiny in comparison, though she's probably a perfectly averagely sized woman. It is simply not safe to have Mouncey running around a crowded court with women that much smaller. I mean great, handball doesn't actively encourage body slamming people, but still, collisions happen.

VovoBickie · 05/12/2018 05:12

That photo, orchid, is so funny because if the woman on the left who looks like she's in the process of summiting peak trans

NotBadConsidering · 05/12/2018 06:05

In Hannah’s latest tweet, Hannah thinks Hannah looks “hideously fat in all photos” Hmm

NotBadConsidering · 05/12/2018 06:11

Yep, according to Hannah’s pinned tweet, it’s only the hormones that matter:

mobile.twitter.com/HannahMouncey/status/1066594171929092096

And Hannah retweeted this, apparently without irony:

mobile.twitter.com/anndeejam/status/1066525830547890176

AngryAttackKittens · 05/12/2018 06:15

Huh, who knew that "fat" now meant "6ft3"?

Igneococcus · 05/12/2018 06:29

I used to play Handball in the school team and having someone coming at you who is a foot taller than you and much heavier when you are defending at the circle (not sure what that is called in English handball terminology) is bloody frightening.

Warsaw0912 · 05/12/2018 06:39

@Igneococcus totally agree - i play a contact sport - football - at a pretty low level and it completely changes the game if someone so big and tall plays or if we play mixed with men - you will get seriously harmed - body-slammed/ feet crushed/ bruises - if you tackle someone of their size so you just don’t go in for the tackle 🤷🏼‍♀️

AngryAttackKittens · 05/12/2018 06:43

I don't think I could tackle Mouncey, even at a full run. I'd just bounce right off.

Frenchfancy · 05/12/2018 06:52

My Dd plays handball. The European championships are on at the moment. I wonder how many men will be playing.

Igneococcus · 05/12/2018 06:55

I'm tall, I'm build like Brienne of Tarth's slightly smaller sister and I would stay out of Mouncey's way. And as far as I know, Mouncey isn't a longtime handball player either, so Mouncey won't have the contact avoiding instincts that you develop when you play a sport from youth on either.
What the fuck is Australia thinking nominating this person for a national team?

Igneococcus · 05/12/2018 07:04

Warsaw I played several sports for my school team but my main sport was Volleyball which I played to a very high level. It's not a contact sport as such but even there having men playing changes the game. They are taller, with longer arms, can jump higher, balls are suddenly coming much faster and from different angles, it's not good.

AngryAttackKittens · 05/12/2018 07:38

Even an accidental collision with Mouncey could seriously injure the other players.

MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 07:51

I wonder what Clare Balding would make of this? She always seems very sensible and is passionate about women’s sport. Doubt she would be willing to speak out though.

Warsaw0912 · 05/12/2018 07:57

@Igneococcus my main sport is volleyball too Grin totally agree that let alone the concerns about contact sport, men’s and women’s games in most sports are completely different so this is not good for women’s sport.