Criminal gender GP Helen Webberley fined £12k

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Criminal record, struck off, £12k fine, £2k fine for her company, £11.3k costs.
www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-46400184

Not sure it will stop her criminal activity seems to be a relatively mild deterrent . Future convictions could hopefully lead to prison ?

The diagnosis of 'gender dysphoria' grants access to the magic kingdom.

If that's what a young, vulnerable and depressed person wants then that's what they will get.

*The diagnosis of 'gender dysphoria' grants access to the magic kingdom.

If that's what a young, vulnerable and depressed person wants then that's what they will get.*

Im not sure I agree.

A diagnosis of GD is not simple requiring multiple practitioners over multiple visits. It certainly isnt something that is easy to get.

The issue is though a diagnosis isnt actually needed nowadays. Your young, vulnerable and depressed transperson just neds to wake up one morning and say "I am trans" and thats all they need - they are granted the same rights as someone who has been diagnosed.

Oops typo!

That should have said ....
The issue is though a diagnosis isnt actually needed nowadays. Your young, vulnerable and depressed PERSON just needs to wake up one morning ....

If 0.3 to 0.5% of the UK population is transgender then you're looking at something like one in 50 transgender people having gender dysphoria.

Exactly!

That is what is happening now. The minority of transsexual people to whom the equality rights were given are being pushed to one side by the transgender, self identity, sometimes sexually motivated brigade who operate by force and abuse.

Transsexual people are the first to disagree with the modern rhetroic but they are so outnumbered its pointless. Transsexual people have been thrown under the bus.

Unfortunately when as per the stats 49 out of 50 people dont have GD then the sensible approach is to exclude all male born persons from female spaces.

Reallly sucks though for the 1 in 50 person though but thats how it has to be.

If 0.3 to 0.5% of the UK population is transgender then you're looking at something like one in 50 transgender people having gender dysphoria.

Exactly!

That is what is happening now. The minority of transsexual people to whom the equality rights were given are being pushed to one side by the transgender, self identity, sometimes sexually motivated brigade who operate by force and abuse.

Transsexual people are the first to disagree with the modern rhetroic but they are so outnumbered its pointless. Transsexual people have been thrown under the bus.

Unfortunately when as per the stats 49 out of 50 people dont have GD then the sensible approach is to exclude all male born persons from female spaces.

Reallly sucks though for the 1 in 50 person though but thats how it has to be.

There's a PhD in sole-practitioner GPs who see themselves as the spokesman and saviour for an oppressed group, and then engage in crank weird woo to "help". This story. Sarah Myhill (in that case, dangerous and untested treatment for ME). There are others whose names escape me. In each case, people with an inflated sense of the skills and insights given to them by two first degrees and some training find an audience with an inflated respects for one person's claims of expertise, and horrible medical disasters ensue.

At risk of getting this post deleted, but also suggesting another possible piece of epidemiology for someone wanting a PhD, I would put money on there being a definite association between the demographics of campaigners on the topic of ME five years ago and transgender issues today, and probably a similar association between the prospective patients. The hatred directed towards Simon Wessley et al five years ago looks a lot like the hatred directed towards gender-critical practitioners today.

Yes there is a procedure to follow. But believe me, it's not that hard to navigate if you're fixed on the outcome. And the procedure does feel supportive and helps keep the distressing feelings at bay.

My issue is that young, vulnerable and depressed people can all too easily get on the pathway that so readily affirms their trans identity and the action that is then open to them - leading to a diagnosis, followed by medication and surgery.

I'm not saying that the young person doesn't 100% believe they are trans and have gender dysphoria. And that this is obviously very distressing for them.

My issue is the overwhelmingly affirmational pathway that they find themselves on. This becomes their support system. This becomes their new identity. This becomes their struggle.

If decent and extensive talking therapy was made available, allowing them to explore their mental health issues sensitively and in detail, then maybe - just maybe - they might see they could have another path other than lifelong drugs and surgery.

If decent and extensive talking therapy was made available, allowing them to explore their mental health issues sensitively and in detail, then maybe - just maybe - they might see they could have another path other than lifelong drugs and surgery.

Absolutely.

Just because someone has gender dysphoria doesnt automatically mean the treatment should be or needs to be transition.

Just because someone has gender dysphoria doesnt automatically mean the treatment should be or needs to be transition.

This exactly.

And just because someone has gender dysphoria doesn't automatically mean they are in the 'wrong' body.

Though of course that might seem the most obvious conclusion given the current climate.

Just because someone has gender dysphoria doesnt automatically mean the treatment should be or needs to be transition.

So do you agree that physical transition should be for adults only, and that medicating a child with puberty blockers at 9 and cross sex hormones at 12 should remain illegal?

So do you agree that physical transition should be for adults only, and that medicating a child with puberty blockers at 9 and cross sex hormones at 12 should remain illegal?

Physical transition - adults only absolutely agreed.

Medication wise however I would support puberty blockers but only in very exceptional circumstances for example where a child was experiencing significant distress, self harming and/or suicidal. It certainly isnt something that should be taken lightly.

Do bear in mind that the NHS in exceptional circumstances will give blockers to children. You can question Dr Webberley on various things but we have to remember that the NHS has also given the same treatment to people of that age.

The NHS has not given sterilising cross sex hormones to twelve-year-olds.

Physical transition - adults only absolutely agreed.

Medication is a form of physical transition, since it affects the body. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Hormone blockers are powerful drugs, which have many effects on the brain and body, including memory and bone density.

medium.com/@sue.donym1984/the-new-homophobic-bridge-to-nowhere-child-transition-c621d6188d6e

lang is correct. Pubity blockers may be proscribed but not cross change hormones.

I read the letter by the kids mum. Gender Incongruence is very upsetting and clearly the child needs support but regulations are there for a reason. Which is why HW was fined.

Andrew Gilligan of the Times points out that "deliquent charity" Mermaids continues to advertise Webberley's Private Practice. He says:

Even the fact that Helen Webberley has now been suspended from all practice, criminally convicted and fined £12k hasn't stopped delinquent charity @Mermaids_Gender from promoting her services.

He posts a link to Mermaids' advert, in which there are a few details about a prosecution and a link to Webberley's response to the prosecution.

twitter.com/mragilligan/status/1071527665994211328

Can you believe how utterly irresponsible this charity is?

I am not on Twitter, but if I were I would be tempted to @ donors who sappear in Mermaids accounts readily available on the Charities Commission website.

I will confess to being slightly haunted by posts here, from the mother of a young trans adult, formerly a trans child.

I may not be right at all in this case, but say if you follow the Mermaid idea, that better a trans child than a dead child. But your child remains unhappy, so the rhetoric switches to ‘blame those nasty Terfs on MN”.

Susie Green is fine. Her daughter is happy, with no regrets, and she is lauded for her parenting via a TV series. But what about those mothers whose children remain unhappy. Can they ever be brave enough to take a step back and consider whether “trans” was a symptom not a cause, and then cope with the guilt of a child facing a lifetime of regret. A medical approach has to be a very last resort.

Ms Webberley is currently doing an AMA on Reddit if anyone has any "respectful" questions. It's all looking a bit tumbleweedy at the moment.

twitter.com/GenderGP/status/1072495748690907136?s=19

I have read bits of the AMA. In response to one question, she said something along the lines of that she would never question anyone who came to her expressing dysphoria and that people know their own minds which she subsequently deleted.

There is a video on YouTube by someone called Jackson Miloh (28/11) about their attempts to get on testosterone. They had no luck with the Irish health system but Dr webberley was apparently very receptive (they mention it being very expensive) until the GP refused to go along with issuing the prescription.

The NICE Guidelines for menopause say that a small amount of testosterone can be prescribed as it may be beneficial for women who have had ovaries removed. None of the testosterone available atm is licensed for use in women so many GPs are not comfortable with prescribing it. Not surprised they are not comfortable with a Webberley sized prescription.

Don’t drs have to study anatomy and physiology anymore? Did dr W maybe miss some lectures?!

Maybe Dr Webberley was studying anatomy & physiology metaphysically?

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