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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Meghan Murphy speech at event hosted by Lindsay Shepherd

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Ereshkigal · 02/12/2018 01:01

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sWYHBFwXb_k

Meghan Murphy - Does Trans Activism Negatively Impact Women's Rights?

Great speech by Meghan, who then has to deal with some of the most halfwitted audience questions I've ever seen at one of these events. Props to her for tackling MRAs, handmaidens and woke bros with her usual aplomb. She takes no prisoners!

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ToeToToe · 02/12/2018 11:36

Have they taken it down? (Already?!)

Ereshkigal · 02/12/2018 11:40

It looks like it doesn't it? Fuckers. Hopefully someone will manage to get it up again.

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Ereshkigal · 02/12/2018 11:42

It looks like the whole Ally Missandry channel has gone down Angry

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ToeToToe · 02/12/2018 11:45

They took down the Feminist Current website by DDOS attack too. Last night. Looks like it's back up again now though.

I wouldn't believe that this whole-scale silencing of women could happen, if I wasn't watching it with my own eyes.

Ereshkigal · 02/12/2018 11:51

Ok so I've found most of the speech and Q&A as posted by someone hostile to feminist views on gender, so hopefully this will be safe AngryAngry

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iy1JFcq-ra8

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Ambroise · 02/12/2018 12:09

Here’s an interview she did last week with Conatus News:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=5As-tz2Oxno

Ereshkigal · 02/12/2018 12:47

Thank you, will watch that later.

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Ereshkigal · 02/12/2018 20:02

Amazing to see the lengths TRAs are going to to try to silence Meghan. It looks like they falsely spread a rumour that she cancelled her Vancouver talk in January which press picked up on.

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welshgendercrit · 02/12/2018 21:18

Feminist Current website is down again. Angry The only gleam of light in this appalling situation is that the TRAs must be getting increasingly worried that their intended takeover might not be going exactly to plan. Why otherwise would they make such efforts to silence strong voices like Meghan's?

TalkingintheDark · 02/12/2018 21:29

I wouldn't believe that this whole-scale silencing of women could happen, if I wasn't watching it with my own eyes.

Same here. It’s shocking and frightening, isn’t it. What kind of world are we moving towards? It looks more and more like Gilead.

Meghan Murphy is just amazing, and she’s been soldiering on for so long in that wilderness of TRA central, Canada. I think it’s VERY telling that just as she started to get actual public meetings off the ground over there, they targeted her like this.

They REALLY hate women over there. Fucking Justin Trudeau with his “I’m a feminist” shit.

Ereshkigal · 02/12/2018 21:45

I think it’s VERY telling that just as she started to get actual public meetings off the ground over there, they targeted her like this.

They REALLY hate women over there. Fucking Justin Trudeau with his “I’m a feminist” shit.

Absolutely, Talking.

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Ereshkigal · 02/12/2018 21:47

Why otherwise would they make such efforts to silence strong voices like Meghan's?

I agree. They're flailing, see their lie to the press today that she's cancelled her Vancouver talk. And it shows.

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QueenDoria · 02/12/2018 21:51

Place marking

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 02/12/2018 22:15

I hope Canadian women are seeing what's going on. There has to be a tipping point somewhere.

TalkingintheDark · 02/12/2018 23:05

Yes, agree she’s got them worried, and that’s why they’re going after her. They’re so affronted that some of us at least won’t just roll over and let them impose this insidious form of domination on us without a fight. I wonder if they actually do believe their own bullshit rhetoric that they are the oppressed and we’re the ones oppressing?

Empress yes, there has to be a tipping point somewhere, here as there, but how long will we have to wait for it to materialise? When I see the ranks of the pious massed against truth, reason and justice, and all believing themselves morally superior for doing so, I just don’t know how long it’s going to take to get there.

Ereshkigal · 03/12/2018 22:40

gcscience

Thanks so much, that's brilliant! Thanks

Full interview and Q&A video of Meghan's Kitchener, Ontario talk available at the link gcscience posted.

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GlorianaCervixia · 04/12/2018 04:37

That was very good. I enjoyed the questioner who was utterly flummoxed at the difference between sex and gender and kept insisting Murphy was arguing for biological essentialism despite being told they had their definitions all wrong.

Ereshkigal · 04/12/2018 08:34

Yes Grin she just could not deal with Meghan's response other than to keep repeating what Meghan had already explained to be a false understanding of the term.

Then there was the woman at the end with her science references that would definitely change Meghan's views. Which I'd bet money would have been that Nature op ed they all go for.

It often seems to me that TRAs and allies are either easily impressed by the SCIENCE and incapable of reading anything more complicated, or think their opponents are stupid. I tend to think the former is a factor, because when you ask them to explain it in their own words they rarely can.

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