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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Linda and Venice's court case has been thrown out

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ChickenonaMug · 30/11/2018 10:30

Result!

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terryleather · 01/12/2018 12:26

It's interesting that only a few weeks ago the police were complaining about having to waste time on hate crimes when they should be investigating real crimes.

I happen to think they have a point, but it annoyed me at the time as much of the reporting centered on things that affect women such as wolf whistling/cat calling that made it look like women were somehow to blame for this situation - a bit rich I felt, when sex isn't even one of the protected characteristic for the purposes of hate crime legislation afaik.

Meanwhile, the police seem to have all the time in world to investigate Glinner, Posie, Linda and Venice amongst others because they said things that the overlords didn't like.

Strange that...

theOtherPamAyres · 01/12/2018 14:03

@Terry

when sex isn't even one of the protected characteristic for the purposes of hate crime legislation

The police have a Violence against Women strategy that makes it unnecessary to have a particular hate crime. There are four ways that it works
(1) Projects, funded through the local force Police and Crime Commissioner aimed at prevention of violent crimes against women and supporting survivors (domestic abuse, FGM, stalking, rape, sexual assault, harassment etc)
(2) Pumping extra resources into providing specialist police and CPS prosecutors, to back up and improve investigations and outcomes
(3) New powers for police and the courts.
(4) Accountability for performance to Her Majesty's Inspectorate and the Home Secretary.

Frankly, I would prefer that the police contribute to a holistic approach to tackling crimes against women. I also think that the Ministry of Justice has created a mess with the hate crime of so-called 'transphobia' - and you cannot blame the police because they have been saddled with the mess.

terryleather · 01/12/2018 14:44

Thanks for that info theOther, I freely admit that the law and policing are not my area of expertise so your post is very informative.

I'm in Scotland and I'd imagine our approach to tackling VAWG in this respect might be different, I don't know.

I still think there was a framing of silly women wasting police time wrt the reporting of the hate crime issue but I guess that's mostly down to the media and how they chose to frame it.

theOtherPamAyres · 01/12/2018 15:31

I'm in Scotland and I'd imagine our approach to tackling VAWG

This is the thing. The SNP led Scottish government has some impressive intiatives - prevention projects, funding support groups, monitoring the police and prosecutors etc. At the same time, the SNP is crowing that TWAW and that services need to be 'inclusive'.

They can't join the dots! They can't see how all their work on VAWG will be undermined by including men. Bizarre! Mind you, some MSPs are starting to see the contradiction, so there is hope.

Sorry, folks. We've gone off at a tangent. Back to Linda and Venice, yay!!

StrangeLookingParasite · 01/12/2018 15:34

Giuliana Kendal indicated in court that she would be seeking judicial review of that decision

Oh get a bloody grip.

GrabEmByThePatriarchy · 01/12/2018 15:55

Talk about throwing good money after bad. It's just not going to work!

terryleather · 01/12/2018 16:10

Yes theOther I agree re: government not managing to do joined up thinking and yes to us derailing - sorry!

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