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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Was thinking very much of you lot

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Glinner · 21/11/2018 18:38

twitter.com/Glinner/status/1065307682364641284

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AlexInSnow · 21/11/2018 19:33

Layla, will you undergo scientific testing for your soul sight? There is a man who carries out such tests in the YouTube video linked on this thread.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 21/11/2018 19:33

DS loves Father Ted and the IT Crowd. He is a also a realist and doesn’t believe in fairies and unicorns (or God).

AlexInSnow · 21/11/2018 19:35

As a scientist, I believe government policy should be based on evidence not political posturing and rhetoric.

From Layla Moran's CV.
cv.democracyclub.org.uk/show_cv/2447

LangCleg · 21/11/2018 19:37

The thing that really sticks out is that MPs are so far behind the actual conversation. They're still parroting mantras that even the transactivists know don't fly any more and have moved on from.

It's like the £350m for the NHS from pro-Brexit MPs. They know the debate has completely moved on and don't patronise us with it any more. They've evolved their arguments.

It's just plain embarrassing.

gendercritter · 21/11/2018 19:38

Also, I had to laugh at the tw 'Laura Danvers' posting on one of your threads. Laura has a Go Fund Me page (I am sure even 10 years ago it was not socially acceptable to beg. I'm agog so many people do these days). Laura wants to raise 5k because Laura had to pay £2k for counselling and £1500 on a new wardrobe and £600 on storing their sperm as part of their transition.

Laura has clearly invested a decent sum of money in their hair and make up in their profile photo. I mean, never mind the women living in horrible poverty in this country and trying to deal with the reality of oppression, people should definitely bung Laura a few quid towards some more mascara and nice tights. Hmm

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 21/11/2018 19:40

Does lady sperm work?

LangCleg · 21/11/2018 19:41

My soul is the reincarnation of a woman on the ducking stool. Plus ca change and all that.

ChattyLion · 21/11/2018 20:04

I am gobsmacked and utterly appalled by what Layla Moran said. She’s not the only MP to talk this way of course but it is utterly disingenuous and self-serving . ‘I simply don’t see it....’ Hmm

What about your female constituents who DO see it? Who tell you in frequent emails that they see it and are worried for themselves and their kids? What the fuck are they supposed to do while MPs claim they ‘simply don’t see it’ in order to avoid getting vitriol on Twitter.

It’s shameful. What next will MPs ‘simply not see’, because it’s more convenient not to..?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 21/11/2018 20:05

Who has her ear?

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 21/11/2018 20:10

The thing that really sticks out is that MPs are so far behind the actual conversation

Yes, that was my first reaction too

KenDoddsDadsDogsDead18 · 21/11/2018 20:17

Lord I think she's pals with Sarah & Zoe.

kesstrel · 21/11/2018 20:20

gendercritter Yeah, I noticed that too! The complete self-centredness is amazing.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 21/11/2018 20:22

I have the soul of a poet. Regrettably, I do not have the talent of one.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 21/11/2018 20:22

And Layla Moran can fuck off with this soul bullshit.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 21/11/2018 20:24

The thing is though, once the medical scandals etc start breaking, all the men who have contributed to the madness will be able to reinvent themselves and move on, these women will be left holding the can

Glinner · 21/11/2018 20:41

"There's a lot of insults posted on your thread but no actual arguments to refute what you said"

They never, ever address the point. It's another one of the benefits of hashtagnodebate

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BirdseyeFrozen · 21/11/2018 20:44

Glinner Grin
Right side of history.Halo

Glinner · 21/11/2018 20:44

"Dear old Hieronymous Tosh, who is well-named imho, resorts to the 'lives endangered' and 'hateful' rhetoric. They have no imagination, that lot."

Abuser tactic. "Stop doing X or people will DIE!"

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LangCleg · 21/11/2018 20:56

Abuser tactic. "Stop doing X or people will DIE!"

I just post this picture to people who do that.

Was thinking very much of you lot
RedToothBrush · 21/11/2018 21:00

"I simply don't see it"

This phrase troubles me. We know she sees it. Everyone sees it. Denying what you see is politically dangerous stuff. Denying what others are telling you is politically dangerous stuff.

The reality is she does not want to admit to what she sees. If she does she has to do something about it. You have to ask, why doesn't she want to see it.

What is it that she doesn't want to see?

Well given that it's male bodies that commit crime against women's bodies and its dangerous men who will exploit the concept of self ID and how the law creates a wall of silence, why is it Layla doesn't want to see this? Also examine who those crimes are generally more likely to be committed against.

Why is Layla afraid about talking about these type of crimes and how trust is abused?

What about the souls of not very nice people? How do you tell the difference between a nice soul and one who is happy to abuse you?

This guff is idealistic, out of touch, away with the fairies nonsense. Very nice as an idea but in a functioning society where bad things happen to good people?

RedToothBrush · 21/11/2018 21:01

And souls are religious. Why do we have to join Layla's religion?

StarsAndWater · 21/11/2018 21:06

He said he wouldn't watch any more of your shows. That's you told! (I'll have to watch them twice as much to make up for the loss of him)

Ha, well I just went and bought all three series of Father Ted so we're two for one there.

Is it just me who got a mental image of Father Dougal trying to comprehend that twaddle?
😂😂😂

StarsAndWater · 21/11/2018 21:14

Is it just me who got a mental image of Father Dougal trying to comprehend that twaddle?

Thinking of fictional characters, after seeing a TRA take on the name of Tiffany Aching on Twitter, I've also been very amused by the thought of how Terry Pratchett's witches would react to all this. Especially Nanny Ogg. My god.

Bowlofbabelfish · 21/11/2018 21:15

Or Mrs Doyle.

with his lad in his hand..

moimichme · 21/11/2018 21:40

Bowl I just want to say that we are genuinely trying, in academia, to encourage students to use critical thought and engage with challenging issues, but it's true with the NSS and the currently cutthroat competition for students (all those lovely fees to line the management's pockets!) that it's becoming more and more difficult to 'force' them to engage their brains, when we can't always fail them when they avoid doing so. Sad