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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another gem from Jane Clare Jones

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welshbookworm · 20/11/2018 17:07

Dr Jane Clare Jones deconstructs the Sally Hines/ Kathleen Stock interview on yesterday's Woman's Hour.

janeclarejones.com/2018/11/20/burble-burble-intersex-burble-social-construct-burble-burble-trans-women-are-women-sally-hines-on-womans-hour

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Melanippe · 20/11/2018 17:16

I think I might have fallen in love with her over again.

FFSFFSFFS · 20/11/2018 17:31

oh she's so good isn't she!

littlbrowndog · 20/11/2018 17:46

Take down 💪💪

Badstyley · 20/11/2018 17:52

Excellent! I showed somebody the transcript done by OrchidInTheSun of that ‘debate’ this morning and she was audibly groaning while reading, not because of Orchid’s transcription skills, obviously. I’ve just sent it to her.

StarsAndWater · 20/11/2018 17:56

She is fantastic. Love the point she makes about TRAs inventing a cis/trans binary. Hadn't thought of that before but absolutely correct.

Datun · 20/11/2018 18:06

It's so humbling how clever that woman is.

donquixotedelamancha · 20/11/2018 19:18

‘Show not tell’ Professor Hines.

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PersistenceIsNotFutile · 20/11/2018 19:28

Genius. I really appreciated some dots being connected there.

Theinconstantgardener · 20/11/2018 19:43

Brilliant!

Theswaggyotter · 20/11/2018 20:08

Ooh that’s good! I really enjoyed that (& the Prince bit at the end!)

terryleather · 20/11/2018 20:15

Oh my goodness, I didn't think it was possible to love this woman more!

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 20/11/2018 20:23

Isn't it nice to see someone articulating it all so beautifully after we've been told for so long that thinking this stuff proves we're mad incoherent old bigots.

I'd just like to add my admiration for the way that KS repeatedly shot down the trusty silencing statements before they had a chance to take off. I actually don't think that was a demonstration of Hines' incompetence so much as a really dazzling piece of argument from Stock. Hines kept calling up her cannon only to find that Stock had nicked all the ammo.

hackmum · 20/11/2018 20:52

I’m always greatly cheered by the number of really clever people we have on our side.

Beagadorsrock · 20/11/2018 21:16

Loved it. Explained - with citations! - why I got a vague sense of implicit racism from the constant references to the "in the West, sex means..."

ALittleBitofVitriol · 20/11/2018 21:28

That was excellent! Thanks for sharing.

stillathing · 20/11/2018 21:43

my gosh that was a beautiful read. a thought orgasm. the link to the article about the appropriation of native american cultures is worth following too.

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