Writing from Twitter prison!

[Glinner]

I've received a twelve-hour ban from Twitter so I thought I'd take the chance to say hello lovely mumsnetters! Thank you for all the support and kind words and very proud to be on your side.

I'm not deleting the tweets because I stand by them and there's nothing offensive about them. See for thyself, fellow witches!

Welcome to MN Glinner. Thanks for the support

virtually what 2rebecca said

I've never thought transwomen were women, but I've rubbed along with a couple just fine.

Until Jennifer James's crowd funder. I just couldn't believe how incredibly unfair it was for men to be taking spaces reserved to combat the inequality faced by women, and telling us we're privileged while they did it.

I bloody love black books, but since non sleeping DS2 I am unable to access most of my memories, so let's just pretend I posted a really cool quote here OK?

Woman! Hello! I've missed you more than I can say.

Likewise Lang and appreciate the welcome back. I have missed your company, insightful comments and irony in my induced purdah . I valued the consciousness-raising that many of the old threads had so this one is welcome. The combined wisdom of women is so awesome to be a part of. I can't even remember how to get the bloody formatting to work on here, so long has it been.

Here's more and and let's hold a thought for Lisa who is so relentingly under the cosh, whilst explaining safeguarding and the rule of law that's being violated on a daily basis now. She's been relentlessly economically abused and reduced to food poverty (my specialised subject), like many women, so she and all those affected need our support now in whatever way we can muster - including holding all social media platforms to account to stop replicating male violence on women through uninformed modding policies. Petition anyone?

Thx for joining us in the tranches Glinner - any thoughts on a new comedy series with us as inspiration?

That's horrendous. I knew generally about hospital wards but when you put it like that for psychiatric patients that's terrible

Former Prison Officer Anne Ruzylo has given public accounts of instances where a transgender prisoner’s right to privacy effectively forced Ruzylo's former colleagues into the position of colluding in the gaslighting of women who had approached the Prison Officers, in confidence, to express their concern that a fellow inmate was not a natal woman.

A disproportionate number of female prisoners have experienced domestic abuse, including coercive control. Effectively those Prison Officers, acting as representatives of the State, are extending that coercive control and have collaborated in psychological violence against the inmates and allowed a conducive context in which abuse of them could continue.

(Specifically, around 39:40-41:00)

Welcome Graham and thanks for all that you do, from one of your grateful Twitter followers.

Can I also thank you for your wonderful comedy and for bringing Gareth Cheeseman to life!

That's horrendous. I knew generally about hospital wards but when you put it like that for psychiatric patients that's terrible

It happened to a woman and was reported, January 2018:
(extract)
"A Lancaster mum whose bi-polar disorder left her believing men were conspiring to kill her said she was left terrified when she was locked on a women’s psychiatric ward with an “extremely male-bodied” transgender patient.
Philippa Molloy, 42, said she was “genuinely, absolutely terrified” because she had suffered a relapse in her condition that made her irrationally terrified of men – including her own husband.
When she raised her concerns with hospital staff, however, she said she was not taken seriously and her medical notes implied that she was a “transphobic bigot”. She said the NHS had failed to think through the implications of allowing patients to self-identify their gender." (continues)

www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/news/lancaster-mum-with-fear-of-men-locked-on-hospital-ward-with-transgender-patient-1-8963648

For me it was when I realised I couldn't safely say what I believed. For the first time in my entire 45 years, I was afraid to speak my mind. Somehow I had become so out of step with what other people appeared to think that I was scared to say anything.

Then I discovered that other women (and men) felt the same and that we did have a voice.

Well, one good thing came out of being in Twitter jail, meeting you lot. Thanks for the kind words. Maybe I will delete those tweets just so I can post this link tomorrow.

Here's something lovely to send you all to sleep.

dh wants to know if you turning up here is like Eoin McLove arriving on Craggy Island!

My first encounter with trans people was in the mid 90s. Me and my gay house mate went to a specialist trans emporium in Bury to find him some enormous stilettos and a wig for the Rocky Horror we were going to see. We thought it'd be a bit of a jolly trip out.

When we arrived, I was shocked by how cowed and frightened the obviously regular customers were. Afraid to make eye contact, seeming to be apologetic for their own existence. The shop assistants had taken on the role of councillor as much as anything. My presence seemed to make everyone uncomfortable and upset the dynamic. The experience left a lasting impression on me.

No-one should have to live like that. No-one should feel ashamed of being gender non conforming. At that point, I was a staunch LGB ally and didn't seen any issue with bringing trans people into the gay community, after all they'd enjoyed such a boost of acceptance at that point in time.

However ...

I first raised an eyebrow at the dirty leg hair thing on Radio 4 but assumed it was a foot in mouth kind of moment. Then the Green Party Non-men declaration went un-challenged and I was incredulous. Since when was 'man' the yard stick against which all of humanity is measured??! Finally I resigned by Labour party membership after the all women shortlist debacle (though I've peak transed many times since then)

I can't quite believe how things have spiralled out of control.

I was at Pride in Norwich this year, I'm sure you must have heard Grahame but the TRA's had you plastered all over their placards! They were at the end of the parade and finished the event on a real sour note. Other slogans included 'these queers bash back' and their whole demeanour and swagger was aggressive. Their mates in the crowd were stood next to my almost 70 year old Mum where they hissed expletives about straights and whooped and hollered to those in the parade. My Mum felt unsafe - a first at the many Prides we've been to.

Where are the grown ups knocking these kids heads together? How have Government and the Police and Scientists and Doctors been absorbed into this? It's incomprehensible. How aren't people joining the dots? Seeing the safeguarding issues? Just giving short shrift to extremists?

Glinner! Just that, glad you're here.

I can't really remember, it was gradual, but Tara Hudson and the 7 inch surprise was a definite moment and so was the bloke at work who put his hair in a ponytail and started crossing the entire building and two flights of stairs to join us in the busiest women's loos to stand up and piss like a racehorse. Lovely. It's all crap and the very idea of men having the fucking nerve to tell us what a woman is makes me incandescent. It's visceral rage with me, I've literally never been so angry in my entire life.

I'd always rolled my eyes at some aspects of trans as far back as the 80s, but back then it really wasn't a big issue. I was vaguely uncomfortable that a couple of transwomen I knew tended to caricature what they thought women were, but I put it down to 'little harm done by a couple of people who are clearly experiencing some form of mental illness or disturbance'. Basic utilitarianism in reverse really - they were so few that any organised opposition would have seemed out of place and easy enough to swallow personal misgivings because one was not confronted with discomfort that often. Also, there were TW back then who did genuinely 'get' women, so to speak. If the world had stopped there I'd be on the other side of the fence. But it didn't. I was rudely shaken from my stupor in circa 2013 when I met my first TRA - a vile misogynist and aggressive person who claimed (at different times) to be 'she', 'queer' or 'non-binary. This person actively sought out women to undermine and silence, and'even worse they actively proposed the transing of children via blockers and hormones and were edging into a position in which they would have capacity to do so. I then started sniffing around and realised that outside of my bubble this person was not alone and that there was a broader agenda to 'safeguard' children by making sure they were supported to trans. I was also aware of the agenda against women, but never thought this would be recognised. I joined MN in 2016 in desperation re feeling alone and have been heartened at the rapid increase in activism against both agendas (transing children and invading women's spaces) since then.

"I was at Pride in Norwich this year, I'm sure you must have heard Grahame but the TRA's had you plastered all over their placards! They were at the end of the parade and finished the event on a real sour note. Other slogans included 'these queers bash back' and their whole demeanour and swagger was aggressive. Their mates in the crowd were stood next to my almost 70 year old Mum where they hissed expletives about straights and whooped and hollered to those in the parade. My Mum felt unsafe - a first at the many Prides we've been to."

Yes, my wife and daughter were there too. Luckily they didn't see it.

"Straights". Hilarious. Nothing more straight than a bloke saying he's a lesbian trapped in a man's body. It's what unfunny heterosexual men have been saying for years.

Stand up and piss like a racehorse

That's why I love MN
Thanks naturalborn
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"It's what unfunny heterosexual men have been saying for years."

Yup.

"It's what unfunny heterosexual men have been saying for years."

That's the kind of thing Rod Liddle says, perhaps he'll become a transbian.

Only when Rod Liddle has got fed up with being a young, black, trans chihuahua!

Waves at Glinner, we've spoken on Twitter.

Yes, I'll never forgive TRAs for making me appreciate Rod Liddle. Strange times...

I want to say something dazzlingly witty & profound but err, feck, bum, arse.

🇮🇪 waves Irishly at Glinner🇮🇪

Cotton ceiling for me. Funny how different people are peaked by different things. Sister got it at Philip Bunce, friend concerned by prisons and dh by aap and Australian guidelines on transing children. Those guidelines are batshit and terrifying if you have a gnc child. Medical profession is sleep walking into a huge scandal. Also makes you wonder how long gids can / will hold out on withholding cross sex hormones and surgery from children.

And thankyou Glinner, for caring and speaking up despite all the shit thrown at you.

Thank you Graham. It is so much appreciated