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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mumsnet is breaching section 26 of the Equality Act 2010 (harassment) by hosting feminist forums that discuss gender-critical issues - legal case?

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MsJeminaPuddleduck · 09/11/2018 08:22

Lady Justice 👩‍⚖️ (@RadFemLawyer)
09/11/2018, 08:16
Have just seen this. Argument is Mumsnet is breaching section 26 of the Equality Act 2010 (harassment) by hosting feminist forums that discuss gender-critical issues. pic.twitter.com/WVkBMxZeqv

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MsJeminaPuddleduck · 09/11/2018 08:23

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Sicario · 09/11/2018 08:26

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Mumsnet is breaching section 26 of the Equality Act 2010 (harassment) by hosting feminist forums that discuss gender-critical issues - legal case?
MsJeminaPuddleduck · 09/11/2018 08:27

twitter.com/radfemlawyer/status/1060808248016756736?s=12

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MsJeminaPuddleduck · 09/11/2018 08:27

Socario - thank you!

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Badstyley · 09/11/2018 08:32

Harassment eh? good luck with that.

Serfisafleur · 09/11/2018 08:34

I'm sure if they were breaking any laws they'd be aware of it by now. JR has had endless threats of legal action becausr pf this board and I expect has very good lawyers who obviously know all threats / complaints do not have a leg to stand on.

Badstyley · 09/11/2018 08:35

Has this anything to do with that silly video threat posted the other day?

Honestly MN, I wouldn’t be losing any sleep over this. OTOH, I’d suggest all the threats and targeting of advertisers coming the other way would be a better case.

Serfisafleur · 09/11/2018 08:35

They're always going on about Mumsnet! Does great for exposure.

HamiltonCork · 09/11/2018 08:35

What a load of pish

BurntMarshmallow · 09/11/2018 08:36

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Badstyley · 09/11/2018 08:36

Speculation of course, but our ‘lawyer’ friend was on here the other day, telling us we’d ‘soon be dealt with.’

BurntMarshmallow · 09/11/2018 08:38

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LangCleg · 09/11/2018 08:48

Does great for exposure.

My view precisely. Public awareness is what we lack. This is free advertising. Many thanks to the "claimant"!

littlbrowndog · 09/11/2018 08:52

Hayden just pronounced us nutters and bigots on Hayden’s twitter feed
😂😂

LurkingLizzy · 09/11/2018 09:00

Hayden just pronounced us nutters and bigots on Hayden’s twitter feed

Pretty much sums it up.

GodThisIsShit · 09/11/2018 09:02

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 09/11/2018 09:02

They really think that they can stop GC women talking don't they?
They really think they have full public support.
Delusional.

PerfPower · 09/11/2018 09:06

Hayden is NOT a lawyer, I can't believe Harrop is stupid enough to treat them as one.

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R0wantrees · 09/11/2018 09:25

"One cannot ignore the differentiation between those who cover what little there is left of their own hair with horsehair and those who do not.

It starts with the words, 'My friend' and 'My learned friend,' the former referring of course to a solicitor-advocate and the latter to a member of the bar."

www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/understand-the-judge-and-skip-a-wigging/41037.article

Hamster00 · 09/11/2018 09:28

Wait, what?!?

Sorry but I've been treated with nothing with respect since I started posting on the boards.

I've never been "ridiculed", "dehumanised", "abused" or "defamed".

Neither to I find this board "intimidating", "hostile", "degrading" or "offensive" towards me.

...and if someone calls me "he", oh boo hoo. I've got more important worries in my life than the fear of "literal violence" at being misgendered. Uugh.

See it's shit like this that tars transsexuals like me with the same brush as these idiots people. (Better not use "idiots", cos I'd be dehumanising, harrassing and abusing them).

I agree with Lang, it's free advertising, and something for us all to have a little bit of a laugh over.

Word for today: "Desperation"

Anlaf · 09/11/2018 09:28

Oh dear. IANAL but am itching to correct that- which perhaps is the point.

Women and MN spend ages arguing the wrongness of their wrong points.

Like trolling through legalese.

MNHQ should refer them to the response given to the claimant in Arkell vs. Pressdram 1971

R0wantrees · 09/11/2018 09:29

Glosswitch NewStatesman article May 2018:

'The demonisation of Mumsnet is just the latest incarnation of witch-hunting
Naturally, it frightens people to think of what a group of mothers might actually demand.'
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"The deliberate withdrawal of women from men has almost always been seen as a potentially dangerous or hostile act, a conspiracy, a subversion, a needless and grotesque thing.” Thus wrote Adrienne Rich in 1976’s Of Woman Born, her seminal exploration of the politics of motherhood. From the workers gossiping in the spinning circle to old wives passing down knowledge of contraception and abortion, women gathered in isolation have long been considered untrustworthy. What might they be saying? What could they be plotting? And how, above all, might they be controlled?

It’s a problem that’s never gone away, though the context has changed. Anxiety over women’s speech – fuelling violent backlash in the form of witch trials and scold’s bridles – arose at a time when, to quote Marina Warner, “women dominated the webs of information and power; the neighbourhood, the village, the well, the washing place, the shops, the stalls, the street were their arena of influence, not only the household”.

One could say things are different in 2018. Changing work patterns and the greater separation of public and private space have led to a fragmentation of female-led domestic communities. As the protagonist of Elisa Albert’s 2015 novel After Birth puts it:

Two hundred years ago – hell, one hundred years ago – you’d have a child surrounded by other women: your mother, her mother, sisters, cousins, sisters-in-law, mother-in-law. […] They’d help you, keep you company, show you how. Then you’d do the same. […] Now maybe you make a living, maybe you get to know yourself on your own terms. […] And then: unceremoniously sliced in fucking half, handed a newborn, home to your little isolation tank, get on with it, and don’t you dare post too many pictures. You don’t want to be one of those.

She’s right. While the work of gestation, birth and mothering hasn’t gone anywhere, the gatherings that sustained it – and scared the hell out of men in the process – have disintegrated. Still, though. There’s always Mumsnet." (continues)
www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2018/05/demonisation-mumsnet-just-latest-incarnation-witch-hunting

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