Great blog about being a trans inclusive feminist

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Here: alicenuttallbooks.wordpress.com/2018/11/04/why-i-am-a-trans-inclusive-feminist/

Enjoy!

Another crappy blog plopped by Spanna.

Is this really the best you can come up with? To be honest, I don't care if you keep doing this, because you are doing wonders for making it look like you have absolutely zero argument!

@DisrespectfulAdultFemale spannah said on another thread that they are a lesbian. Of course these days that could mean a heterosexual man who identifies as a woman and therefore calls himself a lesbian.

"woman-adjacent"

What in the name of arse is this supposed to mean?

Do non binary people get contact womanliness from being woman adjacent? Does womanliness sort of infect them? Like a skin rash?

And this phrase "women who do sex work" I think lets on more than the author knows. I don't think any feminist anywhere has ever thought that a prostituted woman is anything other than a woman, so why the insistence on this? It's t'patriarchy that divides up women into "real women" and "not real women", not feminists. Just another hint that whatever transactivism is, at its core it is regressive and sexist in exactly the same ways as the status quo*.

(not the band - I'm sure they're not raging sexists)

Im not sure spanna is real

More like a plopping santa, we've all been naughty and instead of coal we are getting blogs!

Tell you what Spanna; you answer all the other questions people have asked on all your other plopping threads and I’ll engage with this. Although we all know that’s not going to happen until “someone” comes along to agree with you and tell us all we’re big meanies.

Maybe you could arrange for that to happen soon?

This blog post is not about feminism. It’s about pretending that women don’t exist - except as some vague club that can’t be defined so ‘women’ has as much meaning as it is w floobihoops or hemprattles.

(‘As much meaning as’ but what do words and meaning matter anyway?)

Hi all! The reason I posted and then disappeared was because I was asleep! I can't stay up all night chatting.

Re the 'binary sex is biology' argument, more than 1000 scientists disagree: not-binary.org/statement/

And this trans scientist did too: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/549458/

For those who say they haven't read it/aren't going to, well you're kind of shooting down all your own arguments really.

I post this stuff because I don't want new feminists stumbling in here and thinking there is only one opinion. For anyone who's not read my posts before, I'm a woman, assigned female at birth, and a lesbian.

I’ll take that as a “no, I’m not going to answer any questions on any of my plopping threads because reasons” from OP then.

And no one assigned you anything at birth, your sex was unambiguous and noted down. Stop being silly.

Sex is based on reproductive role, binary and immutable. All the word salad in the world won't change that.

By the way, there were times of scientific consensus on the following:

The Sun revolved around the earth
People with mental health issues should be lobotomised
People with mental health issues should be electrocuted
Smoking can be healthy
Sick people should have blood drained out of their body

For those who say they haven't read it/aren't going to, well you're kind of shooting down all your own arguments really.

I read it. It's a load of inane vacuous pandering shite. HTH

Re the 'binary sex is biology' argument, more than 1000 scientists disagree:

Yes, there's a MN thread about that. Perhaps you should read it?

Or you could add humoural theory broughttolife.sciencemuseum.org.uk/broughttolife/techniques/humours which taught that men were hot and dry, but women were cool and damp. Women's genitals were also thought to be exactly the same as mens, but inverted - I do wonder if some people still think that is a thing.

There you go OP. A good discussion:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3412288-1-600-Scientists-Just-Signed-A-Letter-Opposing-A-Legal-Definition-Of-A-Gender-Binary

Aren't there loads of TRA who think a clitoris is a small penis

Yep Charlie. That's what Meg John Barker wrote in that guide they produced. That babies are sexed according to the length of the clitoris.

How that actually made it into print is beyond me.

If she’s not sure what a woman is how does she know she is one?

If she isn’t sure should she be advising women who are sure?

An abusive man who dresses up as his idea of a trans woman is going to have a lot of eyes on him, and that makes it very difficult to commit crimes.

How would Alice tell an abusive man 'dressing as a transwoman' from an abusive man dressing as a woman?..

Wonder if Alice saw the Ministry of Justice figures, released summer 2018: of the 125 transwomen currently imprisoned, 65 of them are sex offenders.

If biological sex doesn't exist, what are trans people transitioning from/to?

The scientists who wrote that letter don't really think transwomen are women. No one does. That's why transwomen are winning.

Hi all! The reason I posted and then disappeared was because I was asleep! I can't stay up all night chatting.

Try posting when you are awake.

Re the 'binary sex is biology' argument, more than 1000 scientists disagree: not-binary.org/statement/

More than 1,000 scientists think George Bush faked 9/11 with alien tech salvaged from the Roswell crash.

You can find a thousand scientists who think cigarettes don’t cause cancer or that the climate isn’t changing.

There are plenty off astrophysicists who don't believe in man made climate change. Maybe if they club together and write a letter it will change actual reality.

Oh wait OF COURSE IT BLOODY WON'T

'dressing as a transwoman'

How does one "dress as a transwoman"?

Asking for a friend.

Moving on to biology. There is no biological definition of woman that includes all cis women but excludes all trans women, and no biological definition of man that includes all cis men but excludes all trans men.

Null points!

There are. HTH.

Reality exists. You may not like it and it may make you unhappy. but still it moves

This might help to explain the genealogy of this kind of thinking:

theoutline.com/post/6536/british-feminists-media-transphobic?zd=3&z=&zi=smpjwc7p