When will we wake from this nightmare?

[PerverseConverse]

Please tell me we will wake up one day and the trans cult will be officially exposed for the cult it is that is destroying children’s lives? I can’t believe that parents and medical professionals are knowingly and willingly making perfectly healthy children into sub-adults that will never mature properly mentally as haven’t gone through puberty and will never have satisfying sex lives. Never father children or become mothers (biologically), never breastfeed or have that oxytocin flow through them. I feel so sad and angry for these children who are being denied a life where there are options. The choices are being made for them now and as far as we know there is no going back once that brain development is interrupted and disturbed. Why can’t people see how damaging, unethical and immoral it is to do this to our children? When will the madness stop?

The day will come. Unfortunately,I suspect it’ll come too late for many young women. When the lawsuits arrive (they’re sterilising children who aren’t old enough to consent) the problem will hit home, but I fear this aspect will not change for some time.

When women stop supporting it.

Many have already "woken up", what needs to happen now is for the "powers that be" to denounce the whole shebang and return to normal transmission!

The whole McCarthyism style witch hunts going on is insane.

How can these people think they are on the right side of history when they’ve forgotten the past.

UpstartCrow

When women stop supporting it.

I don't think the responsibility lies at women's door.

”Many have already "woken up", what needs to happen now is for the "powers that be" to denounce the whole shebang and return to normal transmission!”

and

”The whole McCarthyism style witch hunts going on is insane”

This is what I’m finding alarming right now. I feel the general public get it and I assumed that would sway things more than it seems to.

I’m shocked at the people who are so invested that they’re marching on. Common sense and reason are screaming in my head that it’s all wrong and I can’t understand how they don’t see it.

”The whole McCarthyism style witch hunts going on is insane”

Yes.

Interestingly, this popped up on twitter the other day:

www.feministcurrent.com/2016/10/04/this-is-how-they-broke-our-grandmothers/

It links to a very interesting podcast too. The transgender movement is, I think, just another manifestation of this centuries-old misogyny. The parallels are so obvious.

Especially with regards to prostituting women - check out the transactivists on twitter - so many of them talk of "No Terfs or Swerfs" -(sex-worker-exclusionary-radical-feminist). Eg Lily Madigan. Lots also seem obsessed with porn & furries - wearing nappies - all very disturbing. And so very, very male.

Radical feminists have always been pro-women, anti porn, anti prostitution. Not good for the men who want to subjugate women - so they must be vilified and burned at the stake (hopefully only metaphorically in this day and age(!) but sometimes I do wonder...)

Very interesting on the "handmaidens" too. Simply a necessary survival technique. "If I make the men like me, they won't do that to me and my daughters".

It's amazing that it's got as far as it has, isn't it? Considering most of the activists seem to be inarticulate and stupid.

I think a lot of it is down to laziness and a lack of education as to how to think critically.

As many posters have said, there must be money behind this.

Considering most of the activists seem to be inarticulate and stupid.

I don't like to say mean things, but that has always struck me as the case in the weak moments where I've engaged them 1-to-1 on Twitter.

It's usually like trying to argue with a petulant 10yr old boy having a sulk. Then I go look at their profile pic and they're clearly in their 40s.

Camille Paglia is a right-wing feminist of sorts, who says that androgyny becomes prevalent “as a civilization is starting to unravel. You find it again and again and again in history.”

I would really like to know more about these 'last days of failed civilizations' of which she speaks...

Honestly tho, if there's any correlation between trans androgyny and the collapse of a society, I'd guess the problem was more accurately, that as women approached a genuine equality under the law, there were enough Elliot Rodger types who hated women enough that the'd rather destroy the world then let women be equal.

The part that is so unbelievable and baffling is people like the US Guardian journalists that call the mildest gender critical discussions or editorial in the UK Guardian as transphobic. Everything is transphobic if you don’t follow the party line to the letter. They just cannot stomach another point of view, they are outraged there is another point of view. Even though it’s mostly women saying “stop invading our boundaries and telling us who we are when you refuse to acknowledge our objective lived reality!”

This is in the Guardian today.

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/03/tavistock-centre-gender-identity-clinic-accused-fast-tracking-young-adults

Yes, they give Mermaids the last word, but even a few months ago I think it would have been unthinkable for a professional to go on the record with concerns like this and for it to be handled in this way - and reported by the Guardian.

(Sorry, I am online - I guess it is the Observer)

ToetoToe thanks for the link - the book which the blog discusses looks really interesting. I do think a longer term perspective is needed here to understand what is going on. Women’s rights are so recent historically but as individuals, many women have grown up thinking progress is to more equality and rights (whereas what is happening is the erosion of what we have taken for granted - as progress).

I am desperately trying to understand what is going on here - because there are people who genuinely suffer dysmorphia in their bodies, how has that translated into a movement which says transwomen are literally women and that children should be medicated? I am glad people are asking questions.

@Juells
'I don't think the responsibility lies at women's door.'

It more specifically lies at the door of RadFem's who've pushed the LGBT agenda for decades whilst ignoring the 'T' part.

WonderFluid how have radfems pushed the LGB agenda whilst ignoring the T? I'm still new to all this as only been on this board for a couple of months or so and therefore not at all knowledgable on the history. I'm not sure how the fault lies with feminists though.

Its a common tactic to blame feminists for the current mess, and demonize radfems as extremists.
(We said this would happen. Did anyone listen? No, they did not.)

You have no room to talk about blame and extremism; it is a tactic de rigueur for RadFems to blame patriarchy for everything, including the speed of light and studying solid objects.

But the patriarchy didn't invent political lesbianism, Radfems did. Patriarchy didn't support the LGBT movement, RadFem 'political lesbians' (or just lesbians) did, for obvious reasons. However they seemed oblivious to the reality that part of the LGBT movement, i.e. the T, has serious mental health issues which could greatly impact women if T's were given the rights they always wanted. Fast forward a few decades and the consequences of Radfem actions are on full display, in the nearest womens' toilets.

You clearly have no idea what a radfem is.

So none of what I've described has happened because of semantics?

Great. Problem solved.

It's cute how you think that the T was rolled in with the LGB in the 60s and 70s (when political lesbianism started). Did you think people were doing "activism" via hashtag back then too?

(I know, I know, Bunbury would not approve of my offering this person my chips. Will stop now.)

That Dawkins article is about postmodernism, not radical feminism - you do realise that is a completely different and unrelated thing?