Rachael McKinnon-another gem from the "you couldn't make it up" guidebook.

[BertrandRussell]

Basically, lesbians should lie back and think of England.

Nah I didn't submit anything, wouldn't have a clue how to to be honest. I just have the link still saved on my computer from when TRAs kept saying that (again) it never happens and 'TERFs' just say it does. Not sure who compiled the list, but it makes me feel fucking ill. Homophobic misogynistic blokes, the lot of them (meaning TRAs/those who think lesbians are bigoted, not all trans people happy screenshotters)

Rachel was 'raped'.
I only got as far as RM saying RM never loved RM's wife.

How awful to say that in writing on an open blog post.

My ex said on Twitter that he never wanted to marry me, despite saying the exact opposite at the time. It's how they rewrite the past to justify their present behaviour.

Vixxxy

Dear god.

TinselAngel

I was wondering about the rape too. But, hand on heart, I just couldn't read any more.

Nasty drivel.

Datun, it's absolutely disgusting

" I was raped by my ex-wife. This depends pretty heavily on how we define rape, though. And most discussions of rape are extremely cissexist..

Mine is a case of a woman raping a trans woman.

Rape is coercive sex. I was coerced to have sex for the sake of "the relationship.

Coercive sex is rape whatever genitals the person being raped has, and whatever genitals the person committing the rape has."

This hulking great man, whose father was very senior policeman, somehow can reimagine his choosing to get married as 'rape'.

Is sex really meant to be about 'coping'.

How vile.

Coping just fine is not what continuous enthusiastic consent looks like, you rapey bastard

100% yes.

Genital hang ups, FFS. No fucking words.

Wait, so when he 'coped' with sex with his wife, that was rape, but when a lesbian is told to have sex with a penis-owner, that's just part of the righteous fight against transpobia.

Doesn't mean I'm not female or a lesbian with a woman's brain and always have been! Cis lesbians who won't sleep with me because of these biological disabilities....

Ok, that's the end of even trying to play along with this utter bullshit.

If you have a penis you are not female.
You are not a lesbian.
You do not have a woman's brain.
There is no such thing as 'cis' lesbians
Being male is not a biological disability
Disability rights were not invented for able bodied males to use to get laid.
You have a major psychological problem that is spilling out all over the place.
You're in need of help and very, very strong boundaries.

"male" sex roles

From that link to the blog about being raped. Coercive sex is an awful form of abuse.

But geez Louise, "male" sex roles? These people just seem to have zero imagination. Are they not aware of the sexual revolution? Apart from the role males have to take in reproductive sex, everything else is up to you as an individual, well, you and your willing consensual partner.

Wait, so when he 'coped' with sex with his wife, that was rape, but when a lesbian is told to have sex with a penis-owner, that's just part of the righteous fight against transpobia.

This made me laugh because it's so ludicrous, but it's actually horrifying.

Putting this whole thread in my thread "Cotton Ceiling" evidence thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3294339-cotton-ceiling-evidence-thread

I'm imagining the next Pride event, with rainbow placards proudly held up "Lesbians: Get over your genital preferences!" They will look super spiffing next to all the fundie church signs telling lesbians and gays they are unnatural. Almost indistinguishable, in fact.

good point, thank you Floralbunting There was a thread yesterday where some woman troll couldn't support gc because "sometimes gc people are rude to the poor widdle trans".

Apparently it's not rude at all for trans to tell lesbians to suck dick.

I saved the link to your thread Ereshkigal, glad you're keeping it updated!

Wait, so when he 'coped' with sex with his wife, that was rape, but when a lesbian is told to have sex with a penis-owner, that's just part of the righteous fight against transpobia

I'm glad someone's pointed this obvious double standard out. So not only are McKinnon's views rapey as shit, McKinnon is a fucking hypocrite too.

I'm a straight woman. This means I like cock and not fanny. That's my sexuality. No amount of getting to know someone's personality really really well is going to change that.

I stand beside my lesbian sisters who like fanny and not cock. That's their sexuality. No amount of getting to know someone's personality really really well is going to change that.

Rapey men of the world -we are saying "no". (And just for reference, though I like cocks, I don't like them when attached to rapey men so male rape apologists can fuck right off.)

As crazy mad as this tweet has made me, I have to tell you reading this thread is properly hilarious with so many straight women describing themselves as 'likers of cock'.

I think this should be the new designation for tick box questions about sexuality, where it says 'Other: please specify'

Liker of cock or Liker of fanny is gloriously blunt. I love it.

This makes me really sad.

In my late teens / early 20s I tried really hard to "get over my genital hangups" and I "coped" with heterosexual intercourse whilst trying to believe, against my own better judgment, the lies I was being told by my peers about just not having found the right man yet / it being a phase / don't label yourself.

It was frankly horrible, and damaging both to me and to the men I was (with hindsight) using to try to turn myself straight. At least now I can look back and say that was both external and internalised homophobia. This is the exact same thing but dressed up as social progress.

I saved the link to your thread Ereshkigal, glad you're keeping it updated! 

I try!🍷

AspieAndProud (from 13:53)

That's the question to ask (though I suspect you'd be blocked in a trice).

I am straight Floral and I'm not sure I could describe myself as a 'liker of cock' - I find them pretty ugly all told. What's done with them is a different matter but they do not on their own make me weak with desire. They are most peculiar appendages and I don't really know why men seem so obsessed with them. They certainly spend much more time thinking about them and talking about them than most women I know, straight or otherwise

If you like a cock, are you allowed to prefer a male one to a female penis which has been described as totally different? 🤔

I don't think one's obliged to like them all, Eresh, even if one has a preference for cocks over fannies! I prefer them attached to men who are comfortable in themselves, rather than gaslighty shits harbouring delusions. (I am now adopting Magdalen's rather neat distinction between sexuality and sexual preferences - my sexuality inclines me towards cocks, my sexual preferences incline me towards cocks attached to blokes who're happy to be blokes.)

in every conversation I have ever had with my teenage ds about sex, I have reinforced the message that unless consent is enthusiastic, assume that it is not consent

Me too. And then these rapey wankfests come along and prove the fucking point. They're exemplars in how not to be, aren't they?

Sadly, I've never met a cock that wasn't attached to... well, a larger cock. But I'm quite willing to believe I haven't enjoyed the best sampling.

Anyway, I'm off to bed, I've done enough chuntering crossly about fecking homophobic conversion therapy wankbadgers today, so I shall bid you all g'night.