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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Liberal demoncrats: "How to survive a transphobic dogpile'

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breastfeedingclownfish · 20/10/2018 11:09

lgbt.libdems.org.uk/en/article/2018/1280194/the-lgbt-lib-dems-guide-to-surviving-a-transphobic-dogpile

I gasped when I read this.

"They are pushing the following viewpoints:
Respecting trans people's rights somehow damages women's rights
Trans women are not women
Trans women are dangerous to cis (i.e. not trans) women"

Liberal fucking democrats

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SwearyG · 20/10/2018 13:06

As ever accusations = admissions with this crowd.

I’d turn it back on them with their advice here:

^Some useful stock responses are:
"This organization is committed to equality for LGBT people, and this includes trans people"
"We do not believe that there is a conflict between trans rights and women's rights"
"Trans women are women; this is not up for debate."
and, regrettably, sometimes "Please leave me/us alone". ^

we know there is a conflict between trans demands and women’s rights

transwomen are men; this is not up for debate

Fuck off, dickhead

Grin
breastfeedingclownfish · 20/10/2018 13:34

Scottish Greens too

twitter.com/rainbowgreens/status/1051451937143558144

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arranfan · 20/10/2018 13:39

Pat Robertson sent me a personal cheque last week.

You should have held out for bitcoin. Less traceable.

Once again - did nobody even stop by Hate Group Organisation 101?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/10/2018 13:44

Scottish Greens too

They really do want to remain as a political insignificance don't they...

nicenewdusters · 20/10/2018 15:34

Please leave me alone

I think that's one of the most pathetic things I've ever read. So basically, if you can't read and remember all the little bits of information in this leaflet, and nasty feminists start asking you questions that you can't answer, due to lack of info or an outbreak of critical thinking on your part, ask them to leave you alone.

I should imagine that Nick Clegg is turning cartwheels working for Facebook and not this bunch.

AngryAttackKittens · 20/10/2018 15:37

"How to survive being disagreed with - a guide to politics for petulant children"

PersonWithAVulva · 20/10/2018 15:38

I can't believe they are still trying to convince themselves that 'terfs' as a tiny minority of the population and that we all just have thousands of accounts everywhere. I guess this includes the likes of yougovs and such? Like, we all just created many identities, and pretended to champion minorities this whole time so that we could randomly decide to let our transphobia lose, in a pattern that makes it look like more and more people are waking up.

Also TRAs never ever threaten people and such, thats all terfs sock puppets too Hmm

Its just...stupid. And fairly desperate too. Like the accusations that journalists in the metro building yesterday were carrying smoke bombs hoping they could find a time to use them whilst pretending to be TRAs.

AngryAttackKittens · 20/10/2018 15:39

Who has the time to maintain multiple sockpuppet accounts? I mean, TRAs do, obviously, but most people have jobs rather than Patreon accounts.

AspieAndProud · 20/10/2018 15:47

"Many of the supposedly-feminist transphobic groups (aka "trans-exclusive radical feminists" = "TERFs") in the UK are receiving funding from US-based religious fundamentalist organisations

I need to check my PayPal account details because my payments aren’t getting through.

AspieAndProud · 20/10/2018 15:53

I see that the Lib Dems are going all out to lose any upcoming elections.

They had a taste of power with the coalition and didn’t like it it.

It’s one thing to spout platitudes at a conference, another to face the responsibilities that come with actual power.

Bowlofbabelfish · 20/10/2018 16:01

"Many of the supposedly-feminist transphobic groups (aka "trans-exclusive radical feminists" = "TERFs") in the UK are receiving funding from US-based religious fundamentalist organisations

Whaaa? I’m on maternity leave and could do with a few bob extra. Where do I sign up?

Accusations as admissions indeed.

Turph · 20/10/2018 16:16

I thought it was just me with the payments trouble. I'm sitting here in my Make Lesbians Great Again hat trying to work out why the Russians haven't paid me my Bitcoin. Guess I'm going to have to keep going to work. Sad

Ereshkigal · 20/10/2018 16:21

So, to summarise, a tiny group of over-invested, sockpuppeting bullies with delusions of widespread public support: the whole thing just screams projection, doesn't it? Bless them, they're really not very bright.

Quite!

donquixotedelamancha · 20/10/2018 16:45

Surprisingly 10 of the 11 strong executive committee of Lib Dem LGBT+ are biological men.

To balance things up, a couple of those bloke identify as Lesbians, so it's all good :-)

deepwatersolo · 20/10/2018 17:08

That‘s hilarious. And explains it all, really.

StarsAndWater · 20/10/2018 17:08

Whaaa? I’m on maternity leave and could do with a few bob extra. Where do I sign up?
Ha ha. I'm a single parent and have two jobs. Still struggling. Let me know if you find the sign up form. Can't believe I've been doing it for free.

nicenewdusters · 20/10/2018 18:15

Thank god there are some male lesbians on the board. If not it would just have been men. Oh hang on.........

nicenewdusters · 20/10/2018 18:16

And yeah, I haven't identified as an unpaid activist, so where's my money ???

Beagadorsrock · 20/10/2018 18:34

Sad
And frankly, I expect some radical 'off the grid' people in the Green membership, but amongst the Lib Dems (don't they tend to be older?) I would think this will be ignored

merrymouse · 20/10/2018 18:56

They had a taste of power with the coalition and didn’t like it it.

Given that they have actually said that in a hung parliament they wouldn’t support any other party, this is literally true.

merrymouse · 20/10/2018 19:03

I can’t believe that at a time when so many people feel they aren’t represented by either the conservatives or labour, the Lib Dems have gone full on crack pot loon.

They have always had a slightly worrying element. (The UKIP badger man used to be a Lib Dem, Lembit Öpik) but back in 2010 Nick Clegg was the voice of reason.

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