Politics Live on now (19 Oct) to debate transgender rights

[FlowersAndHerts]

"Columnist Sarah Vine, former trade negotiator Jason Hunter, Conservative MP Bernard Jenkin and writer Maya Goodfellow join Jo Coburn. They discuss the ongoing Brexit negotiations and look at the debate on transgender rights."

Costly - £140?

That's about the same as a TV licence.

I wish they'd has make-up artist John Mclean on to counteract that make-up artist.

The man made up 'facts' about trans gender people always being with us since the dawn of history. Utter nonsense. Not one of those trans gender people would have been identified in their recognised 'gender' if discovered in a grave/burial site.

The cost of a passport is £75.00 online.

www.gov.uk/passport-fees

My mum gets hers free (lucky woman).

A TV licence is £150.50. Take note BBC!

You could get a nice wig for £140.

Car insurance is loaded in the cost of where you live, Liverpool being one of the most costly areas in the UK.

World at One discussing the issue later - probably the last three minutes.

The irony of a young man buried under a ton of make up, explaining that he buries himself under a ton of make up to hide the real person, earning a living painting a ton of slap all over other women, telling us what feminism is...…

That silly woman on the panel, she thinks a man who is so indulged and pampered that their ENTIRE life revolves around MAKE UP, is oppressed and marginalised. She's pathetic.

From yesterday’s discussion on the same show - the claim is made that there are more trans people than Jewish people:

Surely that’s so wildly untrue it’s ridiculous?

Claim is made at 10:35

"There are 263,346 Jews in England and Wales according to the last census although due to the voluntary nature of the question on faith and under-reporting, the Institute for Jewish Policy Research estimates that the actual figure is 284,000."
Source: www.bod.org.uk/jewish-facts-info/jews-in-numbers/

So, if the definition of trans is as wide as Stonewall's, then it's possibly true.

The 150 cost is means tested anyway, so only people who can actually afford to pay have to. I don't really understand why TRAs bring up the cost thing over and over and don't mention the means tested part.

Guess I am doing this woman thing completely wrong.

IF ONLY there was a way to tell what I was that didn't rely on ridiculously sexualised makeup and hair...

I don't really understand why TRAs bring up the cost thing over and over and don't mention the means tested part.
They never mention how much it costs. I had the impression it was thousands of pounds before I came on here.

(watching this on catchup btw)

So that tw "thinks like a woman"?
Given I have no earthly clue how to do that, again, I must be failing at womaning...

Where do I hand my membership card in please?

They don't really want to think like me...

Where's the fucking coffee?
I can't be arsed to iron a shirt - Ill just wear a jumper
Shit - is that my period coming in? Shit shit shit where's the nearest chemist that sells industrial strength sanpro?
Aw crap, it's time to book my smear/mammogram
If that creepy guy says something as I pass by I will punch him
That alley looks a bit badly lit and quiet - I'll go the other way.
Oh great - Bill got the promotion even though he has less experience and fewer qualification than me.
Ooooeeeewwww- those stretch marks are rank.
I wish I'd been allowed to play footie/take physics when I was a kid.

Vs What do they think we think about?:
Oooooo those shoes are divine?
Do my boobies look too small?
Is my skirt too long?
Do I look pretty?
Pout Pout Pout.

Good God I wanted to slap

Is it really relevant to harp back to Roman and Ancient Egyptian times? Is this how detatched male politicans are from reality?

Speaking of no idea....handmaiden Maya,
this is what common sense is up against!

Why are TRA interviewees so extreme. Either awful Barbie stereotypes or hulking guys in bad wigs?
It's a caricature.

Transsexuals like Kristina Jayne (great video for those who've not seen it) must be thinking WTF?

That should say, slap them with a wet fish. I would say Haddock, but that word has new meaning now.

They think we spend our time admiring ourselves in our sexy underwear and getting turned on by how hot we look

And taking pouting selfies of course.

“thinks like a woman”? How can anyone “think” like a class of people who we are told don’t exist except in feelz? Women = adult human feelz, according to TRA’s.
And don’t even start me on the cost of my passport saga....let’s just say I couldn’t have afforded all the hair and makeup and tasteful outfit in that pic.

I dont think the pictures that @shotsfired posted would pass the passport office portrait guidelines.

@Janie143 They think we spend our time admiring ourselves in our sexy underwear and getting turned on by how hot we look

I'm having a friend to stay over this weekend. Naturally we'll be dressing up in pink babydolls and fluffy mules before we have our feather-filled pillowfight.

I know it's probably "same old same old", but you want to join us?

I think they must have learned their lady feelz from 1970s porn flicks.