Bbc 2 now

[Charliethefeminist]

About to speak to three membersvof the trans community ffs

We can email and tweet to the prog, they read out responses

Is this the Victoria Derbyshire programme?

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IMO, the film of Louise and the transwoman (Debbie Louise I think?), only went well and was friendly because the transwoman thinks they can still work on women to get what they want. They think it is still a negotiation. if Louise just said NO I think that would change.

Jane Fae lying now. DOn't need a GRC they can go where they want. male entitlement.

India poor little me and lying, saying there is nothing to see here.

Rory a transwoman openly wants validation and affirmation. Feels degraded whens he sees female on their birth certificate. FFS.

Outrageous bias.

Now bringing up that things to do happen.. Karen White, other instances.

Joanna Gosling is loving this cosy chat they are having. Makes me want to vomit. She is openly supporting and encouraging them.

Fucking hell- IW's conspiracy theory? !
This is absolute bollocks. BBC bias showing up like a neon sign.
Raging!

Watching and shouting at the tv.
I cannot believe how my fears are being ridiculed and belittled by these people.

Can anyone tweet this study where paedophiles did approach the NHS to transition

www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/6B5F217162ABD9B3189F2EB82787034E/S1758320900012695a.pdf/gender_reassignment_5_years_of_referrals_in_oxfordshire.pdf

Using words like cripple?

I just can't believe that!

Of course the conversation is being dominated by Jane Fae and India Willoughby, with Joanna Gosling and the young transman barely saying anything...

That didn't even try to be balanced.

India, if you don't want to be a trans activist and are bored just say no to invites to these things ..., (on catch up!)

They contradicted themselves constantly,

You don't need a GRC. You will get one if you want to be trans and it's a long process. I don't have one. I do have one. Self id makes it too easy. We already have self Id. I need to self id but I want the piece of paper.... yada yada.

The transperson in the video didn't understand why women and girls need and want sex segregation. They seemed to think that because they consider themselves to be nice, sex segregation should be abolished and instead have segregation based on gender. I have no clue why they think gender segregation is needed, and what happens to the female people who don't conform to gender stereotypes.

I dont believe for a minute that a GRC is just a piece of paper that is comforting for the holders, but has no impact on the safety of women and girls. I don't believe JF, PL or any transperson think that either. Just for some transpeople, the damage to women is irrelevant and for some its

I missed the film at the start- was that as bad as the studio bit?

Funnily enough the trans person in the video when in discussion with Venice Allan did seem to get it. I suspect some heavy editing.

It's the same one as is on the bbc website.

Rational debate www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3399005-Rational-debate

bluetitsaretits you can see it here:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-45894686/gender-debate-women-from-both-sides-feel-silenced

Thanks -will steel myself to watch on catch up after work.

You don't need a GRC. You will get one if you want to be trans and it's a long process. I don't have one. I do have one. Self id makes it too easy. We already have self Id. I need to self id but I want the piece of paper.... yada yada

Totally gaslighty bollox. TRAs have had carte blanch on programmes like this for ever, and they still cannot explain what is wrong with what they have. I have seen a young person go through the process seamlessly. Presumably if you transition in your 50s, then it is going to be a bit more of a challenge, especially if you have lived 50 years as a man and done man things all that time - there is plenty of history to look at for one thing. Maybe 50+ men are just a bit entitled?

where paedophiles did approach the NHS to transition

Analysis by Oxford psychiatrists evaluating the characteristics of individuals seeking gender reassignment finds that some paedophiles seek it in order to get close to children:

Reasons for non-referral to a specialist centre included being deemed not real for transitioning (either determined by the individual or because the person was not currently living in the desired gender role), being homosexual but not having gender identity disorder, having an autism-spectrum disorder with a significant degree of impairment such that the real-life experience criterion was not met, and seeking gender reassignment to facilitate or normalise paedophilia. This latter small group described gender reassignment as a means by which to increase their intimate contact with children, which was viewed to be more socially acceptable in a female role.

Aaaaand the grooming of the nation by the BBC is complete.

Men are women.
Ignorance is strength.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Look into the eyes, not around the eyes, look into the eyes.......

You can't rubber stamp your dna if it's about really being the opposite sex.

In an age completely obsessed with dna, paper does actually become meaningless.

In the section "my transgender kid" a woman decided to present her son as a girl because he called himself "boy-girl" and likes to play with trucks? Wth.
My DD calls girls boys and boys girls all the time because she's 2.10 and doesn't understand the sex of a person. She is also obsessed with cars and trucks. Clearly this means she is also a boy because if she was a girl she'd love dolls and tea sets......?
How disgusting and brainwashing to decide this for a baby. His mother is surely just attention seeking?