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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Open Letter about Trans Media Portrayal signed by lots

120 replies

CrazyToast · 17/10/2018 21:00

This open letter (text is below, not linking to Pink News), tweeted by Sarah Champion MP and put out by Helen Belcher has got me despairing.

The total lies in this letter boggle my mind! How can legitimate professionals put their names to this without researching?

"This coverage has often conflated trans women and girls with sex offenders, implied that all trans women and girls are threats, and has usually been insufficiently challenged."

Don't they understand that no one things ALL trans people are threats? Just that male bodied people are potential threats and that we DONT KNOW who is dangerous and who isnt so we have to treat everyone with caution? Don't they understand that all women operate like this, it is anticipation of risk? Is this just wilful misinterpretation?

"The reality is that trans people are far more likely to be targets of violence than other women."

We all know this is false. Handful of trans women killed in UK in a decade vs two women a week.

The letter in full

We strongly condemn the way the British media has given significant coverage to small groups who wish to push organisations to break existing law with regards to trans people. The Equality Act protects trans people from discrimination and automatic exclusion from same sex spaces, yet over recent days, weeks and months, the media has given significant space to activists who wish to roll back trans people’s existing rights.

This coverage has often conflated trans women and girls with sex offenders, implied that all trans women and girls are threats, and has usually been insufficiently challenged. The reality is that trans people are far more likely to be targets of violence than other women. Isolated extreme and abhorrent cases cannot be extrapolated to infer the behaviour of all trans people. Those countries where gender recognition is operated on an administrative rather than a quasi-judicial process also do not provide any evidence to support the assertion that trans people are a threat or misuse the process to cause harm to others.

The relentlessness of the hostility across the media and the media’s inability to adequately challenge the false claims put forward have led to a significant decline in the mental health of many trans people. Reports of suicides of trans people are on the increase. Free speech does not give free reign to cause people harm.

We call on the British media to revise the way they cover trans stories, to look at the reality faced by trans people rather than focus on extreme theories which have no basis in fact, and to apologise for the significant emotional and mental stress they have caused to trans people over the past year.

Helen Belcher – Chair, LGBT Consortium
Baroness Barker
Dr MJ Barker
Michelle Brewer – Barrister, Garden Court Chambers
Baroness Brinton – President of the Liberal Democrats
Christine Burns MBE
Baroness Burt of Solihull – Women’s Spokesperson, Liberal Democrats
Lord Carlile of Berriew
Lord Cashman
Prof Brian Cathcart – School of Journalism, Kingston University
Dr Louise Chambers – Lecturer, Goldsmiths College, University of London
Sarah Champion MP – former Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities
Dominic Davies – Pink Therapy UK
Martha Dunkley – ClinicQ
Jane Fae
Fox and Owl Fisher – filmmakers, My Genderation
Kate Green MP – former Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities
Susie Green – CEO, Mermaids UK
Dr Adrian Harrop
Prof Sally Hines – School of Sociology, Leeds University
Jennie Kermode – Chair, Trans Media Watch
Fiyaz Mughal – TellMama
Claire McCann – Barrister, Cloisters Chambers
Monty Moncrieff MBE – CEO, London Friend
Layla Moran MP
Prof Surya Munro – School of Human and Health Sciences, Huddersfield University
Nik Noone – CEO, Galop
Lord Paddick
Prof Julian Petley – Professor of Journalism, Brunel University
Tris Reid-Smith – Owner, Gay Star News
Linda Riley – Publisher, DIVA Magazine
Paul Roberts OBE – CEO, LGBT Consortium
Cat Smith MP – Shadow Secretary of State for Young People
Dame Caroline Spelman MP
Jay Stewart MBE – CEO, Gendered Intelligence
Jo Swinson MP – Deputy Leader, Liberal Democrats
Dr Damian Tambini FRSA – London School of Economics
Peter Tatchell
Dr Ben Vincent – Chair, GIRES
Dr Paul Wragg – School of Law, Leeds University
Dr Tray Yeadon-Lee – School of Human and Health Sciences, Huddersfield University

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newtlover · 17/10/2018 21:04

gah- my MP among them

Melamin · 17/10/2018 21:05

The total lies in this letter boggle my mind!

The usual Pink New content then.

Sarah Champion has been tweeting some odd stuff about people taking drugs to change the sex of their baby over the last couple of days Confused

newtlover · 17/10/2018 21:06

was this in Pink News? is that not preaching to the converted?

OvaHere · 17/10/2018 21:06

Well it's not surprising it's misleading. The signatories are pretty much a who's who of transactivism. It's really no different from what what most of those names have been spouting on social media.

Not to mention a large proportion have a vested interest because trans issues are pretty much their whole careers.

BigotedWoman · 17/10/2018 21:06

Translation: you are no longer acting as our mouthpiece and doing exactly what we say. You aren't supposed to think for yourself or question anything. Stop this now.

AncientLights · 17/10/2018 21:07

Ah but look at the signatories! The usual suspects, including Dr. Haddock.

The reality is that trans people are far more likely to be targets of violence than other women. doesn't really makes sense with 'trans people' at one end and then 'other women' at the other. They mean transwomen: why don't they say so?

gendercritter · 17/10/2018 21:07

Gosh I'd be so ashamed to be associated with that. Their reading comprehension skills aren't up to much, are they?

Melamin · 17/10/2018 21:08

Interesting collection of names. Is there a Green there?

Imnobody4 · 17/10/2018 21:08

Hmmmm. All the usual suspects. I'm really shocked at the idiocy of Sarah Champion 'we're all on a spectrum, who am I to judge' Mis-use of suicide, Call to sack cloth and ashes, repentance, admission of guilt. They're seriously deluded individuals.

TimeLady · 17/10/2018 21:08

Suicides mentioned again....

Procrastinator1 · 17/10/2018 21:08

All the usual suspects plus Lib Dems including Jo Swinson which is a real disappointment.

boldlygoingsomewhere · 17/10/2018 21:09

Hmmm, the list of people who signed isn’t nearly as impressive as the academics one. I notice the ‘woke’ uni and West Yorkshire are nicely represented.

I’m afraid I don’t believe anything they write anymore. Having followed this activism for the last couple of years, I’ve seen endless twisting of truth and misleading information peddled. It’s their own activism which pushed me firmly to the GC side. The widening of the trans umbrella to include fetishists and cross-dressers as ‘women’ is just ridiculous.

scepticalwoman · 17/10/2018 21:10

Look at the list of names - it's the same lot who have been successfully promoting this for years and are incandescent that the bullying and harassment is being identified and called out in public. Hot air methinks.

AncientLights · 17/10/2018 21:10

Reports of suicides of trans people are on the increase. Free speech does not give free reign to cause people harm. Weaponising suicide again, must have been chatting to Stephen Whittle. No evidence to support their claim, of course. And free speech??? Exactly who is allowing us that, when they are busy shutting down all our meetings and threatening us?

Freespeecher · 17/10/2018 21:17

Lord Paddick one of many Lib Dem signatories there.

heresyandwitchcraft · 17/10/2018 21:18

This is a very interesting document.
Thatchell, do you realize that this letter is actually against free speech?

Melamin · 17/10/2018 21:18

I tried to work out what they are saying is being reported wrongly, but really, the coverage of Karen White who is only doing what they say they want for everyone, has been mild, considering what she has done. That is the only thing that I can think of that possibly bears any relationship to what they are appearing to be trying to say...........Hmm

Badstyley · 17/10/2018 21:22

They really are bricking it, aren’t they?

Badstyley · 17/10/2018 21:23

All that publicity must be fucking up their program.

Biologicalreality · 17/10/2018 21:26

Jo Swinson? That’s stopped me voting Lib Dem then. My Labour MP is GC, thank goodness, but I don’t know if I can vote Labour when their party policy is TWAW.

Zeugma · 17/10/2018 21:27

Well, it's a full house of signatories. Fox & Owl (LOL), Paddick, Susie Green, Meg John Barker (wot? No Edward Lord? No Justin??)

Oh, and Harrop. How could I possibly overlook him?

OvaHere · 17/10/2018 21:27

I wonder if they tried to get it published elsewhere? It's not really any good to them in Pink News. Anyone who reads PN regularly is probably already a follower of genderism and their engagement via twitter is woeful.

sorenipples · 17/10/2018 21:28

"The Equality Act protects trans people from discrimination and automatic exclusion from same sex spaces" . Is this just those with a GRC, or does it already cover those intending to transition/decided transition was a deeply personal state of mind not a medical matter ? Also I thought if proportional you could automatically exclude all trans people from a specific same sex space.

Annandale · 17/10/2018 21:30

Oh God, my MP too. I don't think I'm likely to get a very positive response to my letter about 'assigned at birth' being used in government documents.

JoanSummers · 17/10/2018 21:35

Showing yet again that whatever women do today, tras will be mimicking it tomorrow, badly.

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