Jane Face, Aimee Challenor and Dr Harrop joking about women smelling of fish.

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Anyone been following the latest with Sticker woman in Manchester? Last weekend she was busy flyering in the gay village and caused quite an uproar the next day. You can catch up what happened here. It ended up with GMP tweeting in support of 'No Terfs on our Turf.'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3387573-Greater-Manchester-Police-Pride-Network-supports-No-T-on-our-turf

Yesterday it seemed sticker woman hit back with a couple of strongly worded posters.

Now the TRA types are playing dumb confused about the 'women smell of fish' slur.' I will leave this tweet here because it's unbelievable to me that prominent members of the trans rights movement would be crass enough to make light of this. Women smelling of fish is woman hate 101. It's probably not a good idea to make a load of fish based puns in response is it?

To me this really underlines how these people are not women. Every woman has been made to feel ashamed of her own body and her own odours. This is not funny it just makes them look like misogynistic men.

twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1051586631441022982

Oh thanks Noodle, I hadn’t seen that twitter chat. He is a humourless, deeply unpleasant, angry little man isn’t he ? I wonder what he does in his spare time, offer treats to puppies and as soon as they sit, eat them himself ?
Perhaps he just sits at home writing bitter letters to the local paper, and ironing his pants.

I have made a formal complaint to the GMC re:Harrop & LibDems re:Challenor.
They really are grubby & nasty inadequate misogynists. Unedifying and pathetic...dangerous.

So Gross. Honestly as a hetro woman I'm gobsmacked to discover how much some gay men hate women. Back in the mid to late 80's I'd sometimes go to gay nightclubs. Why? Because the music was better. Because I could avoid being groped by creeps. Because in the mid 80's I was underage so trying to deflect those creeps brought unwanted attention.

With the exception of a bizarre toilet encounter I'll leave for another time... the worst I had said to me was breeder. That was probably only due to a few straight males grabbing a hold of me if a man approached them. Really fellas.? Hiding behind a 5"2 female ain't a good look. In fairness I never took that comment personally. The gay community was under a lot of vilification due to AIDS and we had some horrendous media reports and scarily misinformed add campaigns.

I never had a problem with lesbians. I'd groove away and be approached to dance. At an appropriate moment I'd let her know I wasn't that way inclined but would still love to dance. We'd dance (sometimes for ages) and finish with a thank you hug and kiss.

TBH I get really pissed when some people try to use as a defence of transwomen - why let lesbians in? WTAFF?

These "fish" comments are just really advertising their immaturity. It's really the kind of comment that prepubescent and younger teenage boys make (at least those that haven't been raised to respect women). Just repost & retweet that rubbish. Society will judge, a society that just quietly contains men that enjoy eating 😻

Yes lots of male 🐱 eaters Purrrrr

Perhaps he just sits at home writing bitter letters to the local paper, and ironing his pants.
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TBH I get really pissed when some people try to use as a defence of transwomen - why let lesbians in? WTAFF?

Yes this annoys the fuck out of me. One, its equating lesbians with male people (something they seem to get a lot, especially butcher ones 'why do you try to be a guy, etc). Two statistics show that women, regardless of their sexuality, are not a threat at all compared to men. Three, from personal experience I have never had an issue with women pushing boundaries. I also used to drink in gay bars a few years back, as my best mate was gay and he used to ask me to go with him. A few times, while he was grinding away on some guy..I was approached by women. However, just saying no thanks, I am straight was enough for them to leave me alone (and often buy a drink and chat...chat properly, not letchy like guys would be after buying a drink). Meanwhile drinking in 'straight bars' (not sure how to put that) would almost always end in some pervy guy pawing me and refusing to leave me alone no matter what I said. I have also been sexually assaulted like 10 times since being 13..and raped once. Always by guys.

So I view women as 0 threat. Yes I could be unlucky and get the 1 woman in a thousand or whatever who might attack me. But I am willing to take that risk, compared to the amount of guys who would. Also its a ridiculous reply to say 'oh well X females should be barred from female only areas' in response to people saying male people shouldn't be there.

And again, it’s not just about actual risk of harm, but our culture and comfort. Women don’t typically get changed with males! Many don’t wisj to do that. Why can’t we just say, NO, we want to retain female spaces.

It’s not an exclusively gay thing at all unless every boy in my secondary school was gay.

It’s definitely international too, here in Korea, women are referred to as a portmanteau of a slang word for vulva (boji) and the word for squid (ojingeo) - bojingeo. Lovely.

And again, it’s not just about actual risk of harm, but our culture and comfort. Women don’t typically get changed with males! Many don’t wisj to do that. Why can’t we just say, NO, we want to retain female spaces.

Yup.

Men don't want to get changed with women either, or share their areas. From what I have heard from male friends, and the reaction of men to the manfriday chaps.

Oh yeah, my husband doesn’t want to get changed with females he does not know- or even with those he does! Except me!