Intersex people

[spannablue]

I'm curious to know what people here think about how we should manage the law, toilets, sports etc for intersex people. What are your thoughts?

Intersex people are still either male or female and have we have managed with all the laws as they are perfectly well since forever.

Stop bringing intersex people into the gender debate.

Oh, dear God. Intersex people have asked time and time again not to be dragged into this. But the terminally stupid insist on doing so.

Intersex people are not transgender.

They really do not like being hauled up as examples in this argument.

There is a wonderful piece about this on twitter - hopefully someone will find it for you.

I think you should not be trying to conflate intersex and transgender.

I think you are trying to shit stir.

Everyone with a ‘disorder of sexual development’ is still easily classified as male or female.

And intersex people have repeatedly asked not to have their medical histories co opted into political discussion for trans issues.

Please stop being so disrespectful.

The intersex community have repeatedly stated they are not transgender.

There does seem to be a recurring theme that some TRAs have trouble respecting other people's boundaries.

I'm not saying intersex people are trans. I knew a few and the ones I know feel vulnerable to transphobia because of how people treat them in toilets etc.

It's a genuine question. Having a different opinion isn't shit-stirring.

What if I'm honestly testing my own logic and beliefs here? The above responses aren't conducive to a constructive discussion really.

Having read some of your previous posts I seriously doubt you are trying to have a constructive discussion.

I had a DSD although I’m not intersex, and a TRA tried to bring me into this, suggesting I wasn’t cisgender (I miss one sex hormone so need to replace it), and to me it’s analogous to people who are diabetic. I’ve never once doubted my sex, and my gender, if I have such an identity, has always been aligned with my sex.

As far as I know, I haven’t seen a single case where intersex people have any issues related to which toilet they should use.

< blithely asks a highly contentious question >

< notes the non- conducive replies >

< goes running back to daddy >

Honest ?
Genuine ?
Sure

Bunbury, our go-to expert for all such things, recommends following the wish of intersex groups and people, which is to leave them the fuck alone.

Thread done. Thanks.

spanna

I'll answer your question on the other thread

You are being very very rude

Starting random threads every five minutes and then not engaging

Rude

i so hoped we had a genderist who was posting in good faith, not just trying to disrupt the board

seems i'm destined to be disappointed

oh, and leave intersex people the fuck alone, as they have requested.

People with disorders of sexual development do not look any different to anyone else.

The only thing that makes them vulnerable to ‘transphobia’ is trans people and allies who co opt their health conditions for political gain.

Oops

I was so incensed by the rudeness i didnt post properly

'I will answer your question when you answer mine on the other thread'

I didn't mean to be rude or cause offence. But I do feel a tad silenced.

spanna

Well i feel ignored!

I knew a few and the ones I know feel vulnerable to transphobia because of how people treat them in toilets etc.

You have known several people who had intersex conditions which were distinguishable by sight?

Those are vanishingly rare, so presumably you work somewhere specialising in intersex conditions?

But I do feel a tad silenced

And I feel insulted by the stupidity of this thread.

Intersex people have repeatedly asked their medical history not to be coopted to make a cheap political point. I suggest you respect that, Spanna. And while we're on the subject of coopting issues to make a cheap political point, stop quoting false suicide stats while you're at it.

But I do feel a tad silenced.

Welcome to our world.