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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fair analogy?

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Bonions · 14/10/2018 07:45

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6269051/amp/My-partner-dog-transgender-man-identifies-canine.html

Tony McGinn, known as 'Tony Bark' to his friends, says he has been into animal role-play his entire life, and refers to himself as a 'human pup'.

[...]But that doesn't mean Tony doesn't think of himself as a 'real dog'. He states confidently that he 'identifies as a dog' and says pet play is about getting into the head-space of the animal.

Would it be a fair comparison to the proposed changes to the GRA to say it would be as if Tony wanted to actually be recognised as an actual dog, insisted that trans dogs were dogs and wanted to receive medical treatment by a vet, be groomed by a dog groomer, and enter crufts dog show?

Tony obviously is not wanting those things but if they were, would that be similar to what some transactivists are after?

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DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 14/10/2018 08:10

I’m quite sure my vet would volunteer to neuter Tony, in the interests of population control and eliminating humping behaviour. Of course.

gilchrist168 · 14/10/2018 08:17

No idea. Perhaps ask Doxtor Adriano A. Harrumphystiltskin volk champignon?
He may self id as a vet on Sundays.
I don't think that he has been through the full microchip procedure.
He might tweet the Pope, however, if he disagrees with you.

Bonions · 14/10/2018 08:18

I missed out a key bit!

The 30-year-old, who was born female and is transgender, is supported by his husband and 'handler' Andrew who accompanies him to regular play dates with other role-players in their hometown of Los Angeles.

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gilchrist168 · 14/10/2018 08:24

Given the massive drip feed OP as to location.
May I refer you to Echo Park Veterinary Hospital. L.A ?
They may have more expertise re the dogging experience. Hth

Bonions · 14/10/2018 09:01

Sorry, wasn’t meant to be a drip feed, the two paragraphs I wanted to copy had an advert in between so the second bit got lost.

It wasn’t the location that was the pertinent info that I’d forgotten but the fact that it was a trans identified woman who then went on to identify as a dog, although presumably not in the same way as they don’t actually think they’re a dog. But yes, this happened in America not here. Sorry for confusion.

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gilchrist168 · 14/10/2018 09:13

I'm not sure what a " trans identified woman" means Bonions
New to me, especially with the canine dimension.
That's the daily Mail for you though.
Every day is an educationSmile

Charliethefeminist · 14/10/2018 09:17

I've been offered a large ad under this thread called Potty Train Your Dog In 6 Days

YetAnotherSpartacus · 14/10/2018 09:22

This is kink isn't it? don't think of doggy style

DorothyBastard · 14/10/2018 09:22

Wait, you lost me. This is a woman, who identifies as a man, who identifies as a dog? Is that right?

arranfan · 14/10/2018 09:25

I wonder if I saw a tweet that might have triggered this?

twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/1050769176858640385

donquixotedelamancha · 14/10/2018 10:03

Would it be a fair comparison

No. Insisting you can change biological sex is daft, and some extremists really are that loopy, but it isn't helpful to talk about Transgender people in this way. It fuels the allegations of transphobia.

AspieAndProud · 14/10/2018 11:25

Wait, you lost me. This is a woman, who identifies as a man, who identifies as a dog? Is that right?

Trying to make sense of this shit can be a bitch.

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