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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

MTFs are not attacked in men's rooms ... but women are. And our rapes in men's room are entertainment.

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WombOfOnesOwn · 11/10/2018 20:14

twitter.com/Chr1stinaG/status/1050434032264249345

Upon being asked to present any proof that transwomen have ever been attacked in a men's bathroom, EVER, a transwoman decides to ask for proof that "cis" women have been attacked in men's rooms, first. And he asked for it to be proportional according to the population.

Of course, this is a ridiculous request, as we have many fewer reasons to be in a men's room. However, within an hour of starting to search, over 50 examples were found -- until Google stopped searches because they thought only a bot could be gathering so many links.

What I noticed was even more horrifying, though, is that as soon as those searches for assaults and rapes of women in men's rooms were conducted in "All," rather than "News," both Google and Bing had dozens of results in the first few pages of free pornography sites streaming video clips of women raped in men's rooms.

These weren't "woman has sex in men's toilet" clips. They said "rape," and "assault," and "attack" right in the titles.

Men bringing women into men's rooms to rape them where there are no cameras is something that has happened to numerous women. It's happened to my own relative. And then these rapes are re-enacted for entertainment of sick, twisted men.

There is no similar "transwoman raped in men's room" pornography when searching for similar threads to see if any MTFs have been attacked in male spaces. That'd probably be a hate crime. It's only cunty women whose rapes are good, clean fun to inspire a quick wank during the workday.

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raisinsraisins · 11/10/2018 20:29

Unfortunately I’m not surprised - a lot of porn is rape. Men like to watch it. When the bbc has any report on rape, abuse etc, it is always at the top of the list of most viewed articles Hmm

Well done on your Twitter thread anyway, a useful resource.

WombOfOnesOwn · 11/10/2018 20:40

I do keep noticing that Google starts blocking my searches after 60 minutes or so of researching trans issues intently. I have started to wonder if there is malicious intent, as this never seems to happen with other topics of research (and I do many other things that involve a lot of it!).

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Zofloramummy · 11/10/2018 21:05

I’ve just looked at that twitter feed and been disgusted by the sheer amount of men abusing women and children in bathrooms.

Completely opportunistic attacks on some very young children. Honestly I think the world has gone badly wrong

heresyandwitchcraft · 11/10/2018 21:12

That's horrendous. Don't think I have the stomach for the thread this evening. Thank you very much for doing the research Flowers. Cannot have been easy, and this Google thing doesn't sound reassuring. Hope you can relax with a Brew or Wine.

doctorbarbie · 11/10/2018 21:22

Well done on unearthing all of that and for getting it out there. It's not the sort of stuff you want to be trawling through on a Thursday evening but this is where we are.

inquiquotiokixul · 11/10/2018 21:27

@Chr1stinaG has a "pinned tweet" saying "I will answer any question (that is polite and respectful) in regards to trans rights."

However this person has a history of defining "disagreement" as impolite/disrespectful. Attempting to engage, politely & respectfully but without capitulation, results in you being blocked & the account goes into "approved followers only" mode for a week. I expect this will be happening again shortly.

Ereshkigal · 11/10/2018 21:30

This person has a history of complaining that any mildly GC uttering makes them "unsafe".

Ereshkigal · 11/10/2018 21:30

Sorry you had to see all that OP. Horrifying. Thanks

WombOfOnesOwn · 11/10/2018 22:15

Those are only ONLY the ones of women and girls abused in men's rooms, where, of course, women are much less likely to be.

There are many more incidents of men using women's rooms as locations for predatory behavior, assaults, rapes, and murders. But the transwoman in question asked for men's rooms, so I obliged.

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MindTheMinotaur · 11/10/2018 23:36

Sickening attacks, some on very young girls. Thanks for compiling the evidence. I am so angry...

UpstartCrow · 11/10/2018 23:50

Have you backed up this info in case the Twitter thread is mysteriously deleted?

WombOfOnesOwn · 12/10/2018 00:13

archive.is/EGxkn This contains an archive of the post and replies now, good idea!

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UpstartCrow · 12/10/2018 00:37

Unfortunately, if the original post is deleted the archive will also be deleted so it would be a good idea to make copies.

Zofloramummy · 18/10/2018 17:13

I read the US report. The percentage of trans attacked in rest rooms was 1%. Now I think that it’s likely this is under reported. But the facts do not lie, women and children are at far greater risk. I don’t have an issue with a post op trans accessing a female toilet. I have an issue with an intact self ID male accessing a female toilet, changing room etc.
This is about safety not bigotry and I’m really worried that this will just be a buffet for sexual predators and women will be marginalised.
The political clout behind this push worried me deeply.

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