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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Brian Paddock on Twitter

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kesstrel · 11/10/2018 15:14

So Brian Paddock thinks self-ID is ok because

A birth certificate has never been used as a passport to access safe spaces & the GRA is about birth certificates.

And also that transwomen have nothing to do with male violence, and that If a lesbian is seeking refuge from domestic violence, simply denying refuge access to men won’t help.

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LoveCompost · 11/10/2018 21:49

Have absolutely no time for this attention seeker . He keeps both sides dangling and when the chips have been down , guess who he always chooses . He’s a game player .

BiologyMatters · 11/10/2018 21:50

I wonder how many of these men who say stuff like this are secret AGPs.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 11/10/2018 22:10

"a former highly regarded and decorated police officer"...

Who fought really hard to shine a light on the mets woeful approach to rape and to try and improve things...

What happened?

He used to be an ally of women.

Now he says any man who says he's a woman gets access all areas and it's up to women and girls to "challenge" them? When we're a. Generally smaller and less aggressive b. Have loads of experiences with scary/ creepy men that make us v wary to confront and c. Are repeatedly brig told we have to ignore anything and everything right up until the point that a definite crime is committed?

Great, thanks bri.

PencilsInSpace · 11/10/2018 22:15

I have not a single fuck left to give about men's opinions of what women should put up with, what we should call ourselves, who we should have sex with, who we should accept in our spaces, roles, sports etc.

Brian showed his colours a while back. Screenshot is from early July after some brave dykes led the Pride London march and reminded everyone that a lesbian is a female homosexual.

Helen Belcher is most active with Trans Media Watch. They are the reason why we see reports of women committing rape and women pretending to be 14 year old boys in order to groom 12 year old girls.

Brian Paddock on Twitter
LangCleg · 11/10/2018 22:22

Fuck off, Brian Pillock.

And that's all I have to say about that.

DoctorTwo · 11/10/2018 23:55

I don't post here very often, but fuck off Brian

BlardyBlar · 12/10/2018 08:46

Thanks for the screenshot Pencils. I recall that Tweet. There was a telling sequence of Tweets I observed round that time.

A short time before, he had been the subject a complaint from within the LibDems on the grounds that he was transphobic. That complaint had been withdrawn, presumably after one of the more mentally controlled anti-woman-activists had pointed out they were in danger of losing one of their best allies.

Despite the complaint, BP was consulting widely with women on Twitter. He was listening to some, though he was policing others heavily. Speaking about your own experience was fine, but as soon as anyone mentioned the way other groups such as Muslims might be affected, he would object.

Still, he seemed to be taking some of the comments on board.

A lesbian posted on those threads about her sadness that she no longer felt able to go to Pride as she no longer felt welcome.

BP responded to say he understood that and felt equally nervous. He said he wasn’t sure he would go.

Pride occurred, and the lesbian protests. Helen Belcher posted a series of Tweets about the appalling transphobia they showed. Brian retweeted those posts, then posted the Tweet pictured in Pencils post. Note the coy flirtatious tone about how he hoped it wasn’t inappropriate. Sounds like his body reacted to Helen’s according to biology.

I suspect he went to Pride, filled with fear he would have lost his place in the community he loves. Helen Belcher greeted him as if nothing had happened, and Brian fell on Helen’s neck with enormous relief.

He has not, since that time, been able to bring himself to discuss the issues openly with women. It was at that time that he stepped out of public discussion.

Until now. The agonies he claims he went through are presumably his struggles with his conscience. And his conscience lost. He has thrown women under the bus.

HandsOffMyRights · 12/10/2018 09:10

Paddock and Haddock sitting in a tree, Misogyny.

ChattyLion · 12/10/2018 09:57

I am really sad at Brian Paddick turning out to be such a dick. I honestly thought he was being a proper grown up politician. All of that ‘I want to listen’ stuff... and this is his conclusion?! Sad

Melamin · 12/10/2018 11:05

Yes, he did set himself up as The Great Arbitrator, and never was.

merrymouse · 12/10/2018 11:10

Maybe some of the confusion is caused by talking about toilets and changing rooms as safe places? They aren’t safe places. If you want to go to a safe place you find a well lit area with cctv and lots of people.

A toilet might be a safer space if you are being harassed in a nightclub if staff/other people will prevent a man entering, but it’s also a place where you can be trapped. Again, the idea that you should challenge people in toilets seems nuts.

A public loo in a deserted street at 3am is not usually a safe place.

However, you can’t go to the loo in a well lit area with lots of people and cctv. Sometimes you need a toilet.

As with prison, isn’t sex segregation supposed to make a dangerous place less dangerous?

OvaHere · 12/10/2018 11:10

His personal agonies over his will have boiled down to who he can live with being disappointed in him. Anger from women (inc lesbian women) will matter less to him than anger from the male GBT.

Needmoresleep · 12/10/2018 13:32

Paddick was always a dick.

His policing of Brixton, how he made his name, put wokeness and virtue signalling way before any concern for the consequences.

Taking two small children to a birthday at Brixton Leisure centre meant running the gauntlet of drug dealers. Black and other mums from local estates were up in arms at the idea that local police considered small time drug dealing was acceptable - it was hard enough already to keep kids away from gangs - and petty crime in the area went through the roof.

The policy was reversed, but thinking about it, it would have been far easier for us to have done our weekly shop at Brixton market but we never even considered it, opting for Tatchbrook Street instead. My impression of Brixton, formed during the Paddick days, was that it was scuzzy. Only now do I take the bus to TKMaxx. So assuming a total spend of £150 a week over 20 years. £150,000 has been lost to Brixton businesses from our family alone.

To me Paddick seems to be someone who thrives on public attention. Forget consequences. They only happen to other people.

ChattyLion · 12/10/2018 13:44

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head Ova.

ChattyLion · 12/10/2018 13:48

Needmore Sad thank you for the context, that’s really bad- I wonder if he was always trying to chime in with Lib Dem wokery. Keeping an eye on the political career ahead.?

SirVixofVixHall · 12/10/2018 13:49

This transwomen have nothing to do with male violence nonsense is wearing very thin. There are so many clear accounts of violence. I feel barging into women’s spaces when you know you aren’t wanted there is a violent act in itself.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 12/10/2018 13:51

Yes, he did set himself up as The Great Arbitrator, and never was.

warbles

Oh, yes. They call me the Great Arbitraitor
Oh-oh, yes I'm the great ar-bi-traitor
Pretending that I care about women
My need is such I pretend too much
I'm an ally and everyone can tell

Oh-oh, yes I'm the great arbitraitor
Adrift in a world of my own
I've played the game but to my real shame
Oh-oh, yes I'm the great pretender
Adrift in a world of my own
I've played the game but to my real shame
You GC left me to believe all alone

Too real is this feeling of make-believe
Too real when I feel what my brain can't conceal
Yes I'm the great pretender
Just laughin' and gay like a clown
I seem to be what I'm not, you see
I'm wearing my heart like a crown
Angry that you GCers still around

Needmoresleep · 12/10/2018 14:04

My impression was that back then, almost two decades ago, he thrived on his specialness, and in fairness openly gay senior police officers were rare.

Trouble is that he now has much the same problem as Stonewall. Being gay is pretty ordinary - which is what most people campaigning for equality wanted. So, inevitably, some need a new campaign, and are busy jumping on the next bandwagon, without really thinking about how valid any parallels are, or listening to concerns.

I wonder how he earns his living. I know police pensions are good, but....

Melamin · 12/10/2018 14:10

If you get the contacts going, then there is always consultancy, whatever you do.

Thanks Disrespectful - I had a feeling there must be a song in there, somewhere! Grin

Needmoresleep · 12/10/2018 14:17

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/soft-drugs-policy-led-to-less-street-crime-more-police-time-and-a-torrent-of-abuse-132297.html

A tell it both ways piece. With an interesting reminder of attitudes towards gay rights back then.

I did not have a great stake in this, other than to be really shocked at how hard it was to push a buggy along the street at 2.00pm on a rainy Sunday afternoon with drug dealers hissing at you on either side of the alley leading to the Leisure Centre. There is no way I would have gone there on my own in the dark.

I am also unsure that the stats make sense. To me a big rise in arrests for Class A drugs would suggest the policy was not working.

I was aware of local mums being really unhappy and campaigning against it. This is acknowledged in the article.

"Mr Paddick denied the claims, saying that fears of children being more at risk "may be a perception rather than a reality"."

But then he is equally happy to dismiss current fears.

Ereshkigal · 12/10/2018 15:04

This transwomen have nothing to do with male violence nonsense is wearing very thin. There are so many clear accounts of violence. I feel barging into women’s spaces when you know you aren’t wanted there is a violent act in itself.

I agree. It's a violation of women's space and if women are unclothed wholly or partially it is abusive.

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