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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

100 Easy Ways to make the world better for Transpeople..

127 replies

Destinysdaughter · 09/10/2018 21:38

This is so much bullshit that I CBA to even comment on it. I’ll leave it to you to make your own minds up on it...

www.vice.com/amp/en_nz/article/mbdx7n/100-ways-be-trans-ally-tips?__twitter_impression=true

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silentcrow · 10/10/2018 00:40

The "pay me" stuff is not just narcissistic greed, it's pinched from other minorities. There's been a big push in the sci-fi/fantasy convention world to make panels more balanced in terms of representation, particularly black, female, and disabled writers. Many of these people got sick to death of being the "token", often stuck alone on an all-male, pale and stale panel, talked over and dismissed, etc. So there's been a real call for people to be paid properly for their time, increase diversity, and break the lazy habit of pointing to e.g. one black woman out of 50 speakers and saying "look how diverse we are!".

Of course trans people need rep too, but it boils my piss that men who've worn a frock for all of five minutes get to talk on panels about Suffragettes and "women in x industry" and the like, shoving actual experts aside in the name of diversity.

ohello · 10/10/2018 00:56

40. Do not tell us we “are playing the victim,” WE ARE THE FUCKING VICTIM.

Victim of what? Narcissism?

nicenewdusters · 10/10/2018 01:01

Can you imagine going for a drink with him? Your head would explode.

"Let me pay. D'you need the loo? It's upstairs, but I can come with you if you feel uneasy going on your own. Yes, I know the barman said does "he" want a pint, but he's about 75 and I'm not going to cause a row in a crowded pub. What d'you mean I'm not an ally? I thought we were just mates having a drink. No, mate doesn't mean I'm misgendering you, I call everyone mate."

And wake from your nightmare.

ohello · 10/10/2018 01:10

Talk to us about more than gender! Movies, what we had for dinner, our next holiday – anything that isn’t constant emotional labour.

Grin buttttt... how well they conform to outdated sexist stereotypes is ALL they WANT to talk about!! And their suggested change of topic is still all about them, as usual. So they choose to talk about themselves, and then choose to talk about themselves some more -- yet this is "exhausting emotional labor" for them wherein it's our fault they're tired of talking about themselves and we should feel guilty that we're "forcing" them to talk about themselves?? Not sure I've ever heard a more extreme version of gaslighting, the only people who would tolerate this kind of "friendship" would be vulnerable people who have already been groomed to accept abuse.

This crap is beyond sad. I hope so many people see this, it's more accurately titled "A 100 ways to peaktrans everyone you know".

Turph · 10/10/2018 01:31

40. Do not tell us we “are playing the victim,” WE ARE THE FUCKING VICTIM.

Victim of what? Narcissism?

The failure to be treated like a walking stereotype has never been a human rights crisis.

Ohello thank you GrinGrinGrin

Bowlofbabelfish · 10/10/2018 02:32

This is pathoogical.

It reads like it was created by someone with at least one personality disorder, as well as lashings of self entitlement and grandiosity. It should be in a textbook.

How do people like this cope with genuine adversity I wonder?

AngryAttackKittens · 10/10/2018 04:48

100 Ways To Remind Yourself That You Don't Matter, And Your Needs Are Irrelevant

Or, as the charming Laverne Cox put it, "bow down, bitches!"

(Don't smite me, mods, Cox really did say that, there's video of the speech and everything.)

InionEile · 10/10/2018 05:07

Do not tell us we “are playing the victim,” WE ARE THE FUCKING VICTIM.

That one just about summed up the entire list for me.

And, yes BiologyIsReal, wouldn't it be good to see a list like this aimed at trans women to remind them to be allies to natal women? Because apart from some notable exceptions most trans women act like the exact opposite of allies to women. If you don't show allyship to others, how can you expect to receive it?

(Unless of course you are working on the assumption that natal women are all-powerful and privileged in comparison to ickle trans folk who are the only humans alive whose feelings can be hurt.)

AngryAttackKittens · 10/10/2018 05:07

Also, if it wasn't already obvious from the tone, you know how I know that these demands are aimed exclusively at women, and young women at that? The sodding moodboards. How many men do you know who have a moodboard?

Title should be "Young women of Tumblr and Instagram - sit down, shut up, and pay me".

QuentinWinters · 10/10/2018 08:09

If trans folk do have to explain something to you that may be uncomfortable, triggering, or upsetting for us, buy us a bunch of flowers, take us for dinner, drop something into our PayPal. No labor should be free.
If this applied to women I would be a millionaire. Ffs.
And explaining things isn't "emotional labour". Someone needs to send this person a copy of wifework.

QuentinWinters · 10/10/2018 08:10

I'm actually off work today so I might have a play with this later Grin

SuburbanRhonda · 10/10/2018 08:11

Surely this is a wind-up, like that Action for Trans Health manifesto calling for free medical training for all trans people so they can perform surgery on each other?

TransposersArePosers · 10/10/2018 08:14

Surely this isn't serious? These suggestions are too extreme to be genuine, aren't they? Please tell me this has been done as satire

Ereshkigal · 10/10/2018 08:15

Victim of what? Narcissism?

Everyone else is the victim of that!

I want a fucking mood board too! Like Lang's. I've set up a crowdfunder.

Ereshkigal · 10/10/2018 08:16

"Patreon Recognition Act"

Grin
WrongKindOfFace · 10/10/2018 08:22

I read the whole thing. Do I get a prize?

Actually, I think I may be non binary. I’m wearing a dress but have some tools in my bag to try and fix the radiator at work. Who’d like my Patreon details so they can give me cash to support me in my endeavours?

Onlyhappywhenitrains1 · 10/10/2018 09:43

They state several times that cis people are not allowed in queer or trans spaces.

But they also say that you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans or to have transitioned in any way. And queer is pretty much anyone that wants that lable now.

So actually there is no such thing as a trans or queer spaces - they're just spaces for everyone.

Changing language to make specific terms umbrella terms works both way. Say good bye to your 'safe spaces ' just like 'women' have been told too.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 10/10/2018 10:25

Virtually every one of those works in reverse for women protesting about the colonisation of our safe spaces. Fight for OUR rights; your curiosity does not come before OUR comfort; step down, take up less space. The lack of insight is staggering.

I do like "some things just be as they be" though. Biology, for one.

AncientLights · 10/10/2018 10:50

It would make a brilliant 'Ladybird book of Trans', but too late for the Christmas market. Maybe if I get my skates on?

LangCleg · 10/10/2018 10:56

It reads like it was created by someone with at least one personality disorder, as well as lashings of self entitlement and grandiosity. It should be in a textbook.

Indeed. On a serious note, probably more concerning that we are in a mass hallucination where media outlets publish this stuff rather than trying to get the person some serious help.

LonginesPrime · 10/10/2018 10:57

How many men do you know who have a moodboard?

How many women have them? I thought they were just for teenage art projects and marketing teams?

Elephantinacravat · 10/10/2018 11:01

I saw this on FB and most of the comments underneath were, ahem, not supportive.

People know this is utter horseshit.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 10/10/2018 11:10

Not read the thread in full yet but off out in a mo and intend to do it on the bus. Literally read first few lines of the article and I'm so pissing cross. The aggression literally jumps off the page. And that first paragraph about this month being important to make changes for the trans community almost sounded like a threat.

Flashingbeacon · 10/10/2018 11:21

Hells bells. You could replace trans with female/black/Jewish/disabled etc person in everyone of those examples and it would still be true! It’s like no other group has every suffered at rhe hands of society.
The one that stung me most was so listen to panels on trans issues when there’s no one trans on the panel (or something). How many groups of men have got together and decided what to do with women?

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 10/10/2018 11:22

Talk to us about more than gender! Movies, what we had for dinner, our next holiday – anything that isn’t constant emotional labour.

But when India was on Big Brother, India constantly brought the subject back to India's gender identity.

If all the prominent transwomen insisted that nobody ever spoke to them about gender, & if they actually became indistinguishable from biological women, wouldn't they immediately lose their USP?

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