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100 Easy Ways to make the world better for Transpeople..

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Destinysdaughter · 09/10/2018 21:38

This is so much bullshit that I CBA to even comment on it. I’ll leave it to you to make your own minds up on it...

www.vice.com/amp/en_nz/article/mbdx7n/100-ways-be-trans-ally-tips?__twitter_impression=true

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SuburbanRhonda · 09/10/2018 23:08

Make them aware that gender is a spectrum

You can fuck right off with your brainwashing of children.

7Days · 09/10/2018 23:09

Could someone c and p? I don't want to give clicks

OhGodWhatTheHellNow · 09/10/2018 23:12

They did one for women.

Deep breath first...

broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/bj5ex8/how-to-help-gender-equality-international-womens-day

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 09/10/2018 23:13

92. Trans-only groups are there for a reason. These are also not your spaces.

Ok. I don't think I can face reading it but it sounds as if despite repeating TWAW, Vice are making it very clear that they do differentiate between women & males with a feminine gender identity. Good.

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 09/10/2018 23:15

53. Ask your friends or trans folk you know if they’d like company when going to hospital appointments. Hospitals are scary at the best of times and sometimes you don’t always get the treatment, doctors, or results you want. Be there to give a hug, at least

Well yes I realise this off of having cancer. You know, the cancer that was being told was EXACTLY the same as the suicide risk business...

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 09/10/2018 23:17

91. Pride is not for you to get drunk and smear glitter on your face. Respect that this is not your space

Sorry, so Pride is a trans thing now? And all those boring old LGB letters can just go off and make up a new thing. Without glitter.

Why do they think they are writing to a heterosexual audience?

doctorbarbie · 09/10/2018 23:19

Guess what? TWAW and pronouns make the list hurrah.

I found that list nearly as annoying as the trans one tbh. Maybe it's a generational thing. I can have my opinion on how I would like to be treated but I can't enforce it. I can walk away though. 'These are my boundaries and those are yours. Now fuck off back to yours.'

doctorbarbie · 09/10/2018 23:20

Talking about the women's list obv.

ohello · 09/10/2018 23:26

There are so many brilliant women on mumsnet (or there was, until MNHQ started banning them all) that I can't remember all their names (apologies!) But one of them said on another thread...

If "everyone" believes that transwomen are women, then why do they need to pass so many laws forcing people to go along with their ideology?

I couldn't even get past the first sentence of that drivel.

Let’s cut the shit – there’s no positive way a cis person can dictate or speak on a life that you do not live and a world you do not have to navigate as a trans person.

If it were true that "transwomen are women" then it would also be true that "women are transwomen". Yet they will have a meltdown at the suggestion. They love claiming to be exactly the same as women (in order to access naked women trying to take a shower at the community pool) -- until they no longer have an excuse to use women as their punching bag and water-carriers.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 09/10/2018 23:27

It's ok to cut n paste quotes from the Vice piece, 7Days, but pasting the whole article breaches copyright. Copyright breaches are illegal and unethical.

bitheby · 09/10/2018 23:34

What does this mean?

"Words and phrases are a way of communication in code for a large majority of the queer community (like “reading”)"

It's so much in code, I don't get it. And I am in the LGBT community. Maybe only people identifying as queer get it. What's reading got to do with it. Or is it about Reading?

ALittleBitofVitriol · 09/10/2018 23:39

LangCleg

"I haven't even got a mood board "

I've got one. It says NARCISSISTS CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF TO THE FAR SIDE OF FUCK in 1,001 different aesthetics.

Nice! Do they sell them on etsy? Grin

GlomOfNit · 09/10/2018 23:40

Woah. High-maintenance, aren't they?

I'm sorry, I got as far as 56 and had to stop.

AspieAndProud · 09/10/2018 23:40

If transwomen are real women what possible grounds could they have for barring women from trans-spaces?

And what the fuck is a trans-space anyway? It sounds like the vortex a Tardis might fly through.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 09/10/2018 23:43

bitheby
Much intersectional, so inclusive.

I think it means that you read someone as [insert label] by their [insert stereotypical accoutrement]

AspieAndProud · 09/10/2018 23:44

Someone with the artistic chops should produce one of those Haynes Manuals on how to look after your high maintenance transbot.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 09/10/2018 23:59

LangCleg Will you marry me?

Shmithecat · 10/10/2018 00:01

I think I may have just peaked. I'm fucking raging.

LuggsaysNotaWomen · 10/10/2018 00:07

It reads like Veruca Salt's Christmas list.

ohello · 10/10/2018 00:17

we need to end the debate on whether trans womxn are womxn, whether we should be able to use the correct bathrooms and changing rooms, and whether we should be parents or teachers. Because it’s not a debate. We are entitled to our human rights just as much as everyone else.

The failure to be treated like a walking stereotype has never been a human rights crisis.

Don’t refer to us as a whole. Do not make sweeping generalisations about every trans person. We are all individual people with different opinions.

Yet the desire to give intact males access to naked women at the community pool, is for all extents and purposes, universal. Individual transpeople can do/think/be whatever but the net effect on women is still overwhelmingly negative.

zen1 · 10/10/2018 00:19

Self-indulgent twaddle, with particular lols at no. 94:
Saying “I do not see gender” is hella problematic. We don’t need another way to be erased.

Also, why is hella suddenly being used everywhere?

pombear · 10/10/2018 00:27

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91. Pride is not for you to get drunk and smear glitter on your face. Respect that this is not your space

Sorry, so Pride is a trans thing now? And all those boring old LGB letters can just go off and make up a new thing. Without glitter.

Why do they think they are writing to a heterosexual audience?

^This!

With bells, horns, unicorns dancing and glitter on it! I'm gobsmacked that anyone who's LGB and not T who can't see this current domination and erasure of all things not T.

ScienceIsTruth · 10/10/2018 00:30

Think I might identify as a femme non binary transwoman.

ScienceIsTruth · 10/10/2018 00:36

Only on the days I want something though.

LonginesPrime · 10/10/2018 00:39

Do not enter queer or trans safe spaces without a queer person asking you to be there or without making sure that allies are welcome.

Hmm...

Also, how is it that the writer article is so quick to point out that trans people are not one homogeneous group while simultaneously assuming that all of their readers are 'cis' and will think a certain way?

Frankly, I'm tired of people clocking the fact I have long hair and wear skirts and assuming that means I'm obviously 'cis' with heaps of privilege and super happy being confined by the rigid gender expectations that society places on me. How come so many trans people state they know how 'cis' women think and feel but argue that we couldn't possibly begin to imagine how they feel?