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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Seriously women, this is not a drill

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Destinysdaughter · 06/10/2018 19:46

Look, if we don’t want our rights to be erased, we have to overcome our female socialisation to be nice, appeasing, kind, empathetic, understanding etc. We’ve all read, with increasing horror what’s happening, men competing in women’s sports, taking our places on all women shortlists, the definition of ‘women’ as an adult female considered transphobic and removed, and and and....

NO ONE is standing up for us, women, half of the population! There’s no judicial review, no MP, no celebrity, no newspaper, no one, it’s just us and our numbers and our truth. Please, all of you, do whatever you can in your own sphere of influence and control to talk about this. I really don’t want to sound melodramatic about this but we are on the cusp of losing so many rights that women have fought for for years. Don’t let this transgender ( MRA) agenda be the hill we die on!

The TRAs have been organising for years and they’ve been very successful, they’ve caught us on the back foot and it may already be too late. Whatever you can do in your real life please do it. We’re not transphobic or bigots, we just want to preserve the hard won rights we already have and need...

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JudyDiana · 06/10/2018 19:52

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HandsOffMyRights · 06/10/2018 19:56

I think the police on horseback might peak a few.

I've not doing anything like this before. At what stage fo we march?

ShotsFired · 06/10/2018 20:01

I saw this earlier. It speaks so much truth.

Seriously women, this is not a drill
Straighttalkersneeded · 06/10/2018 20:05

Yes! Can someone link to the thread from earlier 're the GRA and MP session please?

Bowlofbabelfish · 06/10/2018 20:08

withdrawal of labour strike, cf Iceland 1975?

FermatsTheorem · 06/10/2018 20:10

Wait .. police on horseback? I picked up from another thread that they were deployed against women handing out FPFW leaflets at the Green party conference. Is this true? Does anyone have details?

UpstartCrow · 06/10/2018 20:15

I would just like to remind everyone that there isn't going to be an 'end point' at which we give up.

arranfan · 06/10/2018 20:19

OP, I thought you might be quoting this:

For those of you out there still sitting on the fence, or who still believe that I, and everyone opposing this ‘civil rights movement’, is just a nasty evil hate-mongering bigot, please, if you give one shit about women and the protection of women, wake-the-fuck-up. This is actually happening, it’s scary as shit, and we may well be running out of time. This is what woman-hating totalitarianism looks like. This is not a fucking drill.

janeclarejones.com/2018/09/26/twitter-trans-rights-totalitarianism-and-the-erasure-of-sex/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 06/10/2018 20:20

that's my worry Upstart

this never ends does it?

these wankers are never going to go away

fuck me, can I move planets?

arranfan · 06/10/2018 20:23

FermatsTheorem - FPFW confirm the horse etc.

twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1048622497254572033

Coldallthetime · 06/10/2018 20:24

There is one MP with the courage to speak out, the Tories' David Davies of Monmouth. But, he's a lone voice.
In Wales, Plaid Cymru AM Helen Mary Jones has also spoken out. I suspect her new party leader doesn't agree with her on the matter though.

Destinysdaughter · 06/10/2018 20:42

Yes it was the magnificent JaneClareJones who said that and it gave me the chills. I'm feeling increasingly angry , even 'unhinged' about this on a daily basis and so fucking powerless! ALL we have are our numbers. I wrote on another thread, I feel like I just want to go out and spray paint, in really large letters, Women don't have penises, Women: Adult human female. This isn't 'transphobic', it's just reality. Why can't people see this? People who have power and influence? Female MPs, who are supposed to be representing US?

6 months ago I was suspended from Twitter for saying Aimee Challenor was a man. Next day I was hacked by somebody ( don't know who but I'm pretty sure I know). So many women have been kicked off Twitter for just speaking the truth. The truth that men who feel like women are not actually women. They never were and never will be. And even if they identify as a woman, they don't identify WITH women, in fact they seem to hate us...

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Destinysdaughter · 06/10/2018 20:49

You know like in America, they had a million women march? I wish we could have something like that here, all of us, out on the streets, being visible, getting our message across. Someone wrote on another thread that because so much activism has gone online, when there's real life activism, because it's so rare, it gets a lot of press coverage, And that's been true with this. 2 women go to a swimming pool in South London, identifying as men, massive press coverage. Stickers, saying Women don't have penises? Ditto. A poster saying Women: Adult Human Female? Huge. We just need more of this!

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thatdamnwoman · 06/10/2018 20:55

What have you been doing to help, Destinysdaughter?

thatdamnwoman · 06/10/2018 20:58

Sorry, just seen the above. My fault for writing a response, going off to answer the phone and coming back and posting without checking.

terryleather · 06/10/2018 21:05

*that's my worry Upstart

this never ends does it?

these wankers are never going to go away*

We all know the phrase the price of freedom is eternal vigilance but this shit show is teaching me what this really truly means for women.

Destinysdaughter · 06/10/2018 21:06

What have I done? Well I've written to my MP, months ago, I emailed the Daily Mail ( a publication that I hate but the BBC and Guardian won't discuss this) about the Swim England guidelines thread about it, my comments were in the article, Ive tweeted pp who have a voice about what's happening, to no avail, I've attended meetings, I've retweeted articles on Twitter and copied them on here to inform pp on here. I'm not an influential person. I've spoke to pp I know in real life, I've signed the online petition to Stonewall, I've completed the GRA petition, not sure what else I can do...?

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SittingAround1 · 06/10/2018 21:39

It was my mum who told me women can never be complacent.
She was referring to abortion rights at the time but it applies here as well.

HerFemaleWoman · 06/10/2018 21:51

Yes I am. Amazing who you talk to at the Drs surgery, mum & baby groups, school playground, NCT, the builder, the man who’s repairing your washing machine.

Any where that doesn’t have pretend women with with penis at

HerFemaleWoman · 06/10/2018 21:53

I live in small town so will do some leaflet drops

floppyearsandtail · 07/10/2018 08:40

What happens if the two women go to the swimming pool and identify as men and therefore go for a topless swim in the pool just like a man would? They would, I'm sure, cause a stir.

PencilsInSpace · 07/10/2018 09:09

They did cause a stir, floppy.

They also got Swim England to withdraw their 'guidance'

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