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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Article in Daily Telegraph - Parents who won't their son wear a skirt may be referred to social services

69 replies

MrsSlocombesPussy · 04/10/2018 22:36

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2018/10/04/parents-wont-let-son-wear-skirt-may-have-referred-social-services/

Hope this link works

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BrickByBrick · 04/10/2018 23:05

Good article and I shuddered at 'real girl'.

The comments underneath though, no one is buying into it.

scotsheather · 04/10/2018 23:12

For not letting him wear skirts or letting him declare he is a girl? There is a difference and I think its to restrict simple clothing choices based on sex, though bringing to SS is way OTT.

scotsheather · 04/10/2018 23:13

think its wrong to restrict

MrsSlocombesPussy · 04/10/2018 23:14

I'm glad to see awareness is increasing all the time.

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noeffingidea · 04/10/2018 23:24

I always refused to let my daughter wear a skirt at school, so there's no way I would have allowed my son to. Allow me to refer myself to social services..

VickyEadie · 04/10/2018 23:26

Yes, wearing a skirt is definitely the thing that makes us "real" girls.

FekkoTheLawyer · 04/10/2018 23:29

Lord I never wear a skirt. Must be a bloke then.

tillytop · 04/10/2018 23:38

Allow me to refer myself to social services.. Looks like you won't need to? Some interfering brainwashed busy body will do it for you.

Uncreative · 04/10/2018 23:58

I’m pretty sure that the Quran says something about men dressing as women (or possibly the other way around) being forbidden. Yet another example of existing protected characteristics being in direct conflict with the new transgender ‘religion’.

BettyDuMonde · 05/10/2018 06:10

Best comment goes to:

Article in Daily Telegraph - Parents who won't their son wear a skirt may be referred to social services
Datun · 05/10/2018 06:59

I wish more people could have a long enough conversation to understand that any boy can wear a skirt but it doesn't make him a girl.

But the rest of the article, in my opinion, was far worse than any skirt wearing controversy.

Another scenario outlined in Brighton and Hove City Council’s guidance document is parents who contact the school to ask: “My daughter doesn’t want a boy changing next to her, what if he looks at her body?”

It explains that in such a case, “it would not be appropriate to remove the trans pupil from the changing rooms”.

Instead, the school should focus on increasing their “training and awareness raising” to ensure that all pupils understand that a transgender girls is a “real girl”.

Approved abuse of girls.

Spelled out, in case you missed it with

This means that any boy who identifies as a female should be allowed to use girls’ changing rooms, even if it makes other girls feel “uncomfortable”.

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 05/10/2018 07:06

Datun

That's extraordinary, isn't it?

If your daughter has a problem with this, she needs to be re-educated, or suck it up

NicePieceOfPlaid · 05/10/2018 07:08

Still Spartacus.

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 05/10/2018 07:08

I actually think that a boy wanting to wear a skirt isn't a problem, as long as everyone understands that boys can wear skirts and still be boys

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 05/10/2018 07:09

Brighton Council are just off-the-scale-scary-cerrazy

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/10/2018 07:14

That article is really good in the way it sets out clearly and simply exactly what schools are being told to do

inquiquotiokixul · 05/10/2018 07:14

I'm gender-critical and spaŕtacus and all, but I agree it is wrong for parents to prevent a boy from wearing a skirt if he wants to. These ridiculous rules about your genital type needing to dictate people's clothing, tastes and activities is what got us into this mess in the first place. If his parents weren't so sexist maybe he wouldn't need to react against their control by jumping on this trans waggon?

AngryAttackKittens · 05/10/2018 07:15

Children should be allowed to wear what they want, weather and public indecency laws permitting. But an outfit doesn't change your sex.

Brighton sounds absolutely barmy, like the city version of the idea of a Poe.

DodoPatrol · 05/10/2018 07:19

Ugh, some of those comments. At least half think the problem is gay people, or that a boy wearing a skirt is outrageous, or that being trans is ‘early sexualising’. Very few seem to care about cutting off parents, or long term outcome for the boy, or disadvantage to girls.

Persifleur · 05/10/2018 07:21

Did you see the comment updating the fable, that the child who pointed out the emperor's state of undress committed a hate crime?

LassWiADelicateAir · 05/10/2018 07:24

I always refused to let my daughter wear a skirt at school, so there's no way I would have allowed my son to. Allow me to refer myself to social services

Thar would be ott obviously but if your daughter wanted to wear a skirt then you were unreasonable.

Persifleur · 05/10/2018 07:25

It's the bit about re-educating girls about their boundaries that most concerns me. Yes of course they should be taught not to bully but not that they have to accept male is female in the changing room.

LassWiADelicateAir · 05/10/2018 07:29

If his parents weren't so sexist maybe he wouldn't need to react against their control by jumping on this trans waggon?

Are you referring to a theoretical "his parents"? The article isn't about an actual case.

deepwatersolo · 05/10/2018 07:31

“I refuse to allow my son to change his name or wear skirts

One is not like the other. Probably half of the male population on Earth wear skirts or dresses, without the need for a girl name.

Now100 · 05/10/2018 07:32

I think the response to this should be to say "okay, but what about all the shy trans or non-binary students? Why not have completely mixed changing rooms? It's the same principle that males changing with females is just fine".

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