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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Stonewall encouraging primary aged children to fill in the GRA consultation

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OrchidInTheSun · 03/10/2018 08:13

And these people advise the government? You can ask a teacher to help you apparently. This is grooming

twitter.com/ollypike/status/1047218961107046400?s=21

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shetheyhim · 04/10/2018 10:59

So exactly what would happen if a 12 year old child went up to their teacher and said, 'Can you help me fill this form out please?' With all the guidance that has been going into schools, would that teacher be able to help a child fill the form out without consulting the parent? Would the teacher be branded a bigot if they refused to do so because that would mean they were not supporting or validating a trans child?

MinecraftHolmes · 04/10/2018 11:01

Fucking hell. I barely trust my primary aged DC to not change their mind about what they’ve asked for Christmas between now and December. And they want children involved in policy making?!

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 04/10/2018 11:22

Who are people actually emailing to complain about this?

R0wantrees · 04/10/2018 11:24

There is an all party Safeguarding group and Children's Minister..?

R0wantrees · 04/10/2018 12:00

recent thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3366278-Ruth-Hunt-Stonewall-CEO?

R0wantrees · 04/10/2018 12:27

Spectator article 'Don’t tell the parents: the official guidance to teachers of ‘trans children’
As in so many progressive ­schooling fads before it, children are the experts and ­teachers are just there to facilitate'
by Madeleine Kearns

concludes:
"What’s worrying is that anyone who challenges the new teaching on trans issues can find themselves in trouble. So when Victoria Atkins, the Minister for Women, admitted to being ‘a little cautious’ about teenage sex-changes, she was accused of bigotry. And Dr Kenneth Zucker, perhaps the leading authority on gender dysphoria in children, was recently ousted from his clinic in Toronto after being accused of ‘transphobia’ and supporting ‘conversion therapy’ because his 40 years’ experience and research had led him to the conclusion that affirming a child’s perceived gender can be counterproductive.

Many of these transgenderism training programmes are publicly funded. Last year, LGBT Youth Scotland received more than £1 million in grants, including £350,000 from the Scottish government, £160,000 from local authorities (all but one SNP-controlled), and £75,000 from Education Scotland. Mermaids UK, meanwhile, was granted £35,000 from the Department for Education and £128,000 from Children in Need.

Something is off here. Teachers are being asked to put ideology before evidence and to exclude parents from serious welfare decisions about their own children. Parents are often not allowed to take part in the discussion. Children are being asked to make important decisions about their gender, which is a surprisingly adult notion for many to grasp. What’s clear is that the issue of gender dysphoria in children is one of tremendous complexity, both medical and moral. To suggest otherwise — to children or teachers — is a dangerous mistake."

www.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/dont-tell-the-parents-official-guidance-to-teachers-of-trans-children/

R0wantrees · 04/10/2018 13:09

Current thread, OP twofalls post includes response:

"I’m writing to let you know that I’ve raised your concerns regarding Mermaids UK, one of the organisations we link to on our Gender and autism page, with a number of teams within the National Autistic Society. In light of the concerns raised in your message, and of other feedback that we have received, we have decided to remove all links to Mermaids UK from our website, while we take the time to consult with relevant professionals and to reconsider which organisations we wish to place links to on our website.

As such, our Web Team are working to remove all links to Mermaids UK from our website as soon as possible. Please do be aware, however, that, as we are currently in the process of updating our website to reflect our new branding and organisational identity, it may take a few days for this to be actioned."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3384565-Good-news-from-the-National-Autistic-Society-regarding-Mermaids-Please-help

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 04/10/2018 13:16

That's fantastic news.

Bolloxio · 04/10/2018 15:34

Children cannot possibly understand this and its creepy as fuck to pretend they can and urge them to fill in this

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