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Why is the feminism board fair game?

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WokerThanWoke · 02/10/2018 21:14

  • When asked what posters like about Mumsnet, they mention the fact that they don't like or hide the feminism board or say it should be removed, although that wasn't the question.
  • There are always threads asking how to hide a board, without fail many posters join to say yes I hate the feminism board too.
  • Posters make threads or post on existing threads telling us what we can/can't discuss on here.

There's lots I think that's pointless, boring or inane on MN but I just don't click on those threads or topics. I don't post on the threads and tell people how boring I think they are or that they should talk about something else.

Does it happen for any other board?

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GulagsMyArse · 02/10/2018 22:15

GoldenWonderwal Grin

disrespectfulpenguin · 02/10/2018 22:27

Oh for the love of.
I have a husband. i am a stay at home mum. I like baking and sewing.
i have a drawer of make up and spend far to much money on my hair.
I am a feminist.
I like ballet which i know, i know, sigh, but it soo pretty. BUT I am still a feminist.
I dont care how you dress.

What makes me a feminist is, I think my daughter should be paid the same as my son for the same work. MY daughter cant trans out of the pay gap. I want female children around the world to have access to the same rights, the same education, for fucksake the same right to live as the male ones. Girls cant trans, opt out of this.

I am conditioned to be nice to get along. I was told all through my childhood dont be bossy, let your brother win, BLAH BLAH BLAh

PS i do shave my legs because i am condition my society to do so. I wonder why in so many peoples minds NOT shaving your legs is such a big no no no?
just for your interest owlcation.com/humanities/When-Did-Women-Start-Shaving-The-Painful-History-of-Female-Depilation

Galvantula · 02/10/2018 22:35

I've been here 9 years and I'm sure I remember the "hiding the Feminism board" comments from long before the TRA debate threads became common.

traceyracer · 02/10/2018 22:39

perhaps this feminism board would be more accurately called the gender-critical board?

FloralBunting · 02/10/2018 22:50

Because we are weeeeeetches!!

ToeToToe · 02/10/2018 22:53

perhaps this feminism board would be more accurately called the gender-critical board?

No, it's all feminism. All woman centred, as it should be. Some men don't like that of course.

The FWR board was re-named feminism chat in 2014 because a few people started whinging that it was exclusive and too academic - and that was way before the trans issue became mainstream here.

There is a certain section of society that just don't seem to like women gathering together to talk about themselves, and their own experiences. Banish the penis from your discussion - you're a target.

ToeToToe · 02/10/2018 22:55

Incidentally, I was heartened by how many MNetters came out to say they were here for the Feminism Boards on the recent thread by MNHQ - really uplifting.

SD1978 · 02/10/2018 23:01

Partly, it may also be when someone who doesn't really have much knowledge of what feminism is and where to look- there can be some seriously snippy replies of do your own research and don't rely on us to tell you where to look. Happened to me, and have seen it happen to others.

CrazyToast · 02/10/2018 23:03

Cos people don't like feminists and feminism, even women, even other feminists.

The feminist boards never show up on my Active, wonder why?

ToeToToe · 02/10/2018 23:06

SD - it's because that board has been trolled relentlessly for years by men's rights activists. The 'just asking questions' brigade.

It's actually not nearly so snippy as AIBU can be, or the Doghouse. But somehow it's worse when it's feminism.

Viago · 02/10/2018 23:09

How did you find the thread then Crazy?

PickleNeedsAFriendInReading · 02/10/2018 23:18

I think it's because people are quite interested in the topics. But it's not a board that many people would feel comfortable posting on, unlike other boards that they might just want to hide. I read a lot, but just lurk. I'm fairly intelligent, find it relatively easy to write, had the start of an academic career, but there's still almost no way I'd dare contribute to any of the threads here. So I can see why it's more controversial than other boards, because people don't really want to just hide it.

AssassinatedBeauty · 02/10/2018 23:36

Just to point out that people on the aibu thread about this are having a field day about how vile/transphobic FWR is. Which is nice.

PositivelyPERF · 02/10/2018 23:40

Oh dear. We’d all better let women identifying men into our spaces then, just to keep the ‘woke’ happy.

GoldenWonderwall · 03/10/2018 07:37

pickle just contribute! It’s not scary at all. Look at my posts on this very thread - are they groundbreaking or steeped in feminist history? Was anyone mean to me? No and no. If you have something you’d like to say they share it Smile

sd if something has been discussed in depth and at length and there’s recent threads about it, perhaps you will get snippy replies or none at all if you try to start from the beginning again. You may (or may not) have noticed that a tactic to take up people’s time and energy is to repeatedly ask faux naive questions. One woman’s snippy is another one’s to the point though and I doubt it’s as snippy as ‘odfod’ you get in aibu Smile

Juells · 03/10/2018 08:40

The Feminism board does feminism a disservice by alienating women.

Having brought my children up, and being fairly settled in life, I thought that feminism had nothing left to fight for apart from equal pay in some areas - areas I wasn't involved in. I thought things had become so much better for women in general. It's been a horrible shock to read the FWR boards and see the absolute fucking assault on women that's happening right now, where we're not allowed to use the word women in case we offend somebody somewhere. Everything to do with our actual physical identity has become unmentionable if it's used with the word woman.

WTAF? Things are ten times worse than when I was a teenager. I'm not particularly articulate, and have never been able to wade through books on feminist theory, but I fucking know when I'm being shat on from a height.

RayRayBidet · 03/10/2018 08:45

I think many of the responses on this thread are why many on MN don't want to come on the feminism boards.
This thread is extremely sneery.

pennydrew · 03/10/2018 08:58

It’s always been this way with regards to feminism, it wouldn’t matter what the focus of the majority of the threads was. There are always women that complain about feminism or how others are doing feminism. Always. They’re entitled to their opinions, and we are all entitled to ours.

pennydrew · 03/10/2018 08:59

Also, we are all adults. This whole, I’m too scared to go on that board because of the nasty women, is emotionally manipulative BS.

RayRayBidet · 03/10/2018 09:09

I've just quickly counted on the feminism board and there are at least 20 threads about trans issues.
It's an important issue but I think for many women it doesn't affect them as much as being in a low paid job, DV, cuts to services etc.
Do you think Feminism needs more women to become involved?

GoldenWonderwall · 03/10/2018 09:12

I take it back - perhaps I’m one of the posters that’s ‘extremely sneery’ and now someone has been mean to me Grin Maybe I’ll just assume they’re being mean to me and take massive offence anyway! No sense of humour some people.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 03/10/2018 09:18

Yup galvantula - Leningrad called us the millwall of mumsnet in about 2011

RayRayBidet · 03/10/2018 09:18

Sorry @GoldenWonderwall I don't understand what you mean.

Ekphrasis · 03/10/2018 09:19

It's the social media version of putting your fingers in your ears, shutting your eyes and saying "la la la la la la la la..."

Kr1stina · 03/10/2018 09:20

Some women care a great deal about impressing men. They are worried that caring about the rights of other women will make men not like them.

So they have to make A Big Thing about hating feminists, in case they get contaminated by association.

Whereas most people who don’t like prepping or chicken keeping manage to just not click on the threads on these boards. It’s not hard. I’ve been here for 15 years and have never read a single thread on the Litter Tray .

I’m a genius.