A startling bit of hypocrisy here

[OnceUponATimeInAmerica]

My first thread in here, and I am more than a little nervous about it, trying to avoid any MN transgressions, but have just stumbled on this startling/terrifying hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance. I can't find that there is a thread already, and apologise if I have missed it.

Hopefully the images attach. A tweet asking what women would do if there was a male curfew after 9pm, which in itself is not an unreasonable question. On the full thread, there are lots of suggestions from women, then a couple of men chime in with how shocked they are and why aren't women full of rage all the time. Finally, the response from the initial author saying 'we are'.

My eyes have just rolled back so fucking far, they've gone full circle. An intact adult male implies that he should be able to be out after 9pm in the event of a man curfew and that he is as enraged by male behaviour as adult females.

Stop the world, I want to get off.

Yes Danielle Moscato was my peak trans moment with " suck my girl dick "tweet on international women day.

I peaked a long time ago, not even sure who/what got me there. Have now got my SIL onside and working on DH, but I think the GG thing might have got him there now. I was explaining it a couple of weeks ago, he wouldn't believe me. Then it hit the national press, and he read it elsewhere, and he is now sounding more like he might be peaked or almost there.

Just tried to read that thread and my eyes are rolling so hard I can no longer see

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I love the “why aren’t women filled with uncontrollable rage?”

We’re not allowed to be. We are hysterical, liars, ridiculous, called disrespectful and then silenced.

But feel free to get angry for us and do something about it.

Wow, to be fair, I hadn't even thought about it.
Do men not worry about being out on their own at night?
I suppose they don't have to.....

(And this slow thinking process is why I don't post on the feminist boards)

I'd take the dogs for a walk, walk to the pub, gosh, it would be such a revelation I'd just walk by myself in the moonlight!

Ain’t nothing Like a bloke who thinks he’s a good guy so should be allowed to transgress womens’ boundaries, and it’s all the other bad guys we need to keep out, not him. The complete lack of self awareness is staggering, like IW having a hissy fit about Phil Bunce being on that list of the top 100 women because he isn’t a real woman, not like IW, then telling Posie they should be allowed into a womens’ refuge.

As a general rule of thumb, any man who thinks he should be allowed beyond a woman’s stated boundaries is exactly the sort of man who should be kept out. I wonder what would happen if we let each individual man decide whether he’s a nice enough guy to have access to vulnerable women? I’m guessing it wouldn’t end well.

Uncontrollable rage at this pile of crap

bad someone made the rather interesting point on here that is we do get self ID the only safe place is going to be the men’s toilets. As at least the ones still using the gents are respectful of spaces.

In total fairness,^^ men don't necessarily feel safe wandering the streets at night either. (At least, not my DH. Or at least not where we live!)

But I can easily assume that more so than women.

Moscato is even more of a one person peak transing machine than the one who does YouTube videos scolding lesbians for being insufficiently enthusiastic about penises.

Moscato would be fine walking around at night in most places, unless they're the sort of places where nobody is safe.

I always thought young men were most at risk of violence outside the home. Not sexual violence obviously and nearly always perpetrated by other men...

Furx
Yes but the irony is, I doubt any one of us would feel comfortable going in there, and as most of us will have found out to our cost, sometimes even the nice guys turn out not to be so. I bet there’s a whole lot of men who’d take an opportunity if it was there on a plate. They wouldn’t necessarily go out looking for it, but ya know, can’t say no if it falls in your lap. I’ve known plenty of men like this, wouldn’t say boo to a goose but can’t help themselves if they think they can get away with it. It’s fucking scary. I pretty much don’t trust any man, apart from my own dad. I’m sure I might get called a hysterical man hater at this point, but my so called best friend had a bloody good go at raping me when I was 12, so I learned my lesson early, not that I didn’t ignore it a few times afterwards, to my own cost.

It’s not even the determined predators that worry me so much, They’ll just do it anyway, as the AWA are so keen to point out, it’s the horny opportunists and the lads out for a laugh being egged on by their mates I’m more worried about. You know, the hobby blokes at the bar tipping back pints of Stella and grabbing your backside when you go to buy a drink. Every man who wants it will have a gold plated opportunity to indulge themselves if they want and there will be nowhere to get away. I wonder how many women have retreated to the toilets to get away from a creepy date or some perv harassing them? Now he can follow her.

Gobby, not hobby. Bloody autocorrect. Not so keen on correcting my other spelling errors is it?

Re men feeling safe to walk the streets at night: A lot of them aren’t, because of male violence, innit.

I hate it when TRA mention something women-related like this - is it prove how "woman" they are? I have also seen PL and JD do this. Sticks out every time.

Did Danielle Moscato start this discussion?

The answer for me is nothing different from what I do now.

Really lass, you don't look over your shoulder constantly and listen to every sound if you're out walking in the dark by yourself?
I honestly don't know any women who feels safe walking alone late at night.

"We are" (we meaning women)
From Danielle Muscato

Oh dear god.

Apologies, and this is why I lurk, don't post, I had no idea who Danielle is, and therefore no context to the post, sorry.
Thanks all for not piling in, much appreciated.
However, I do think the question is still an interesting one, regardless of the originator, my behaviour would be different if I wasn't concerned about predators.

Really lass, you don't look over your shoulder constantly and listen to every sound if you're out walking in the dark by yourself?

No I don't.

You must live in a very different environment to me.

This is the one thing that helped my DP understand the difference between experience of the sexes. I feel as safe as anyone walking out late at night. But if I hear footsteps, or if I see a male, I will slip my keys between my fingers without thinking about it. When I told him this, he asked why, and clearly didn't get why that would be a response, so I explained about it creating a make shift weapon. He still didn't click straight away because it literally never occured to him that the situation would set anyone on edge.

the question is still an interesting one, regardless of the originator

It is although I assume it is done as a means of validation.

You must live in a very different environment to me

I've lived in cities since I was 18. I travel to cities on my own.

Absolutely scream it’s a valid question to ask and one which is an eye opener to hear the answers. The issue, and the reason for posting, is Daniele muscato’s inclusion of themself in the “we are” (full of uncontrollable rage)

1. Daniele is not “we”, Daniele is the “them” the curfew would apply to.

2. women don’t get the luxury of uncontrollable rage. We have to control our anger very carefully if we dare express it at all.