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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie on Matthew Wright in a mo, talk radio

96 replies

BeyondAdultHumanFemale · 02/10/2018 13:33

Twitter... ‪*@talkRADIO* @Matthew_Wright #talkradio

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gendercritter · 02/10/2018 14:26

*actually you can probably doxx someone with already public info, for example if you monitor their posts in an online forum and use it to build a picture of their real life identity. Exposing that identity is then still doxxing, I guess

dolorsit · 02/10/2018 14:28

With the proviso that I haven't listened to the interview.

We don't want an interviewer who is "on our side" just one who will ask challenging questions and allow answers.

Datun · 02/10/2018 14:28

73kittycat73

Doxxing is finding out someone's personal details, that aren't generally in the public to Maine, publicising them. It's been used in posies case as an intimidation tactic.

GC Does indeed mean gender critical.

Feminists, and in actual fact trans groups, acknowledge that gender is a set of roles and expectations that society imposes on each sex.

Those imposed on women tend to disadvantage them.

You won't find, anywhere, any kind of evidence that says gender is actually an innate sense of whether you are male or female. Transactivists like to pretend there is. But there isn't.

Feminists are usually gender critical because they see women being oppressed on the basis of their biology, and gender is the means by which its done.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 02/10/2018 14:30

We compromised for years with transsexuals. That wasn’t enough for the AWAs.

Datun · 02/10/2018 14:32

Sorry not Maine! Domain.

TransposersArePosers · 02/10/2018 14:32

Absinthe I was just coming on to post that Eammon Holmes follows Matthew Wright on Talk Radio - I hadn't realised they were stable mates

AbsintheFriends · 02/10/2018 14:43

Transposers MW was also on This Morning a couple of weeks ago, talking to the deeply charming Eamonn and Ruth about leaving his TV show, and it was obvious from that conversation that they're all good mates.

I'm sure that MW is GC, but my guess is that he won't want to make things tricky with the lads.

(Interestingly, in the course of this interview Ruth is in the middle of distancing herself from feminism when Eamonn speaks over her. At 4 minutes in if anyone is particularly bored this afternoon. )

wingwarbler · 02/10/2018 14:45

I do agree dolorsit but we don't get to move the argument forward much if the interviewer can't accept there is such a thing as sexism or male violence or biology.

Such an uphill battle.

BrownPaperTeddy · 02/10/2018 14:57

I didn't hear this interview but just on the point of MW focusing on violent women - I've heard him talk about male victims of domestic abuse and if I remember correctly he has said that he has been a victim in the past.

I wonder if this affects his perspective?

FloralBunting · 02/10/2018 14:58

Is it such a surprise that a lot of men just don't get it? This is one of the reasons I am so suspicious of men who claim the title 'Feminist', because I have met vanishly few males who have taken the time, without seriously prompting, to consider issues that pertain specifically to women.

Some of them are open misogynists, for sure, but a big bulk of men just don't really get it at all.

Ikeasucks · 02/10/2018 15:03

It drives me nuts when people use the fact that a tiny proportion of violent crime is commited by women, to argue that violent crime is practically 50/50. No. 99/1 is not 50/50. This is not difficlut.

It is usually virulently women hating men that focus on this - very strange that women use it - even if they are male women.

nauticant · 02/10/2018 15:26

This is one of the reasons I am so suspicious of men who claim the title 'Feminist', because I have met vanishly few males who have taken the time, without seriously prompting, to consider issues that pertain specifically to women.

When #metoo was uncovering all kinds of abuse, men having self-identified as feminists seemed to make little difference as to whether they were abusers.

MoltenLasagne · 02/10/2018 15:43

The only "male feminists" that have ever seemed plausible to me are the ones who have, very sadly, lived with the reality of domestic abuse as children and speak out against it. They also tend to be vocal about the fact that they are feminist allies rather than feminists because they actually listen to women.

TerfedOff · 02/10/2018 16:45

twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1047146912934191105?s=19

There's been a little snippet released here on Twitter

happydappy2 · 02/10/2018 17:14

Is anyone able to post the full interview please, I can’t seem to access it on catch up, thanks

LikeDustWeRise · 02/10/2018 17:39

Matthew Wright pissed me off there. Talking some uninformed/misinformed bollocks.

Posie was fucking amazing. Such a relief to hear sense being talked and women and girls being centred.

Brava!

Datun · 02/10/2018 17:41

Is it such a surprise that a lot of men just don't get it?

This is why it's such an uphill struggle. They might get the sports issue, or the predation issue. But they really do not understand the everyday awareness that women just walk around with. Quietly bubbling under the surface, until something starts the radar blipping louder. It's second nature. And they don't have it.

The 'I don't want to be with a strange man when I'm vulnerable' that almost all women feel, isn't something they will grasp, unless you spend a considerable amount of time explaining it. And even then, you have to wade through the namalting and women do it too.

Sometimes I think it's the single most significant issue that divides the sexes.

73kittycat73 · 02/10/2018 18:46

Thank you for taking the time to reply to, and explain for me @gendercritter . I really appreciate it.

Barracker · 02/10/2018 18:47

Matthew sounds thoroughly irritated that women can't just capitulate to some men to prove they are nice and tolerant.
Annoyed that women might dare to say fuck off to all men, no exceptions.

I've just seen him on twitter opining that it would be refreshing if women didn't hide behind pseudonyms. He's irritated by the idea we won't make easier targets of ourselves.

On the day he learns Posie was doxxed, he's entirely unsympathetic to women's need for anonymity.

He's a colossal dick.

73kittycat73 · 02/10/2018 18:48

Thank you too @Datun . I appreciate you took the time to reply and explain.

BeyondAdultHumanFemale · 02/10/2018 18:51

It's hard to tell when you can only see part of a conversation, but I wonder if the comments about pseudonyms were more aimed at the TRAs? There seemed to be a few telling him not to air posie at all, under fake names?

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BiologyMatters · 02/10/2018 19:05

*But they really do not understand the everyday awareness that women just walk around with. Quietly bubbling under the surface, until something starts the radar blipping louder. It's second nature.And they don't have it.

The 'I don't want to be with a strange man when I'm vulnerable' that almost all women feel, isn't something they will grasp*

Oh. My. God. Lightbulb moment. I've never fully appreciated before until about 30 seconds ago just how much men don't worry about simple stuff like just walking down the street in the dark. Must be bloody lovely.

Barracker · 02/10/2018 19:08

He seemed to reply directly to a GC poster using her word 'refreshing' - she had a pseudonym and it looked liked he was referencing her specifically.

His 'lots of intolerance on both sides" comments tell me all to need to know.

One side is defending its own sex, the other is attacking, prosecuting, libelling, doxxing, threatening, no platforming.

Yeah Matthew, both as bad as each other.

My arse.

hellandhairnets · 02/10/2018 19:41

I hear so much of this nonsense about "yes but women sexually assault men, too! Women are just as bad" these days.

I think a lot of people honestly do believe it's 50-50.

How do you get the stats out there about the truth so people get it?

TerfedOff · 02/10/2018 19:48

@BeyondAdultHumanFemale you could be right MW has liked this tweet:

twitter.com/CarlBrown1975/status/1047137114054365187?s=19

Which comes at the end of a long conversation between two barmy sounding trans activists and one very normal sounding woman.

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