Interesting case

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6226001/Girls-football-coach-36-faces-life-prison-confessed-murder.html

Yeah. Can't really say much more than that. I'm proud of my no strikes record.

What a chilling read. And it uses 'she' throughout. This individual has forfeited any right to have his delusions pandered to. Will this be recorded as a female crime?

That is totally confusing.

The pictures are of a man.

Ffs. What happened to truth in reporting?

Yes, chilling.

We can’t tackle male violence if we can’t even name it.

Crime stats need to be recorded under sex as well as gender identity.

My understanding is that there's a push that means when people are allowed o change their birth certificates they will always have been the acquired sex, IYSWIM. So, even tho' the murder took places so long ago, the reporting has to be based on current identity.

There's some controversy over how this might be implemented with respect to, e.g., the Soham murders if this should come to pass. Will the crime stats be retrospectively updated (I don't think so but it's all very murky).

Karen Tunmore is a violent thug who was born and remains a woman, I believe.

Hi all,

Just curious really.

Can you get into trouble with the law if you made a film/tv show/song/Work of art which was controversial? Entirely fictional but based on true life stories?

Just wondered

This is a male person and we all know it. How they be referred to as she. It's a lie.

Awful that we can't trust reports of a "woman"committing a crime but in this case I think she is a woman? Is there anything to suggest she isn't?

Ok I'm really confused, I just read the BBC website and the pictures are different. I think it is a woman.

What evidence is there that she wasn't born a woman?

When I saw this reported earlier, without photos, I instantly wondered if it would be another crime being commited by a man but reported as a woman.
Now I've seen the pictures I think she is a woman.
Strange story, not helped by the fact it seems to be two articles crammed into one. Formatting or editing problem maybe.
Link to the other article might be helpful if anyone can provide it thank you in advance.

The Daily Mail pictures show a man.

Its a woman, its badly written and the labelling of the photos is confusing,

Horrible crime, I hope at least the family can get justice now.

The fact that we are having to debate if this is a man or a woman clearly demonstrates the ridiculousness of the situation we now find ourselves in.
We should be able to trust the news to report crimes accurately.

No the daily mail has been very bad with the editing. I thought the man was labelled Karen, but the man is the victim.

Very badly edited and laid out.

Most of the information seems to be in there twice over. It's all over the place.

How bad is it that we can not believe the words in the press as to who committed a crime? That our immediate response is to wonder whether the perpetrator being described as "she" is truthful? I spent longer looking at the photos than reading about the horrific crime trying to figure out if I was being lied to and if I was being required to lie as well.

There is a Karen Tunmore registered as being born in Newcastle Upon Tyne in 1982. It's a very unusual name, so I assume that is her, and she was born a woman.

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