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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Father Ted writer says TRA is a dangerous troll

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TurfClub · 29/09/2018 06:23

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/father-ted-writer-graham-linehan-says-the-trans-activist-stephanie-hayden-is-dangerous-troll-6pwrg9p68

Said TRA tried to doxx Graham's wife after he retweeted about said TRA being a dodgy misogynist.

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TurfClub · 29/09/2018 06:24

Some more of this TRA bullying women here: www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/exclusive-transgender-lawyer-calls-police-transexual-solicitor-harassment

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TurfClub · 29/09/2018 06:26

And some more context:
twitter.com/TerfClub/status/1045385676366045184

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HamiltonCork · 29/09/2018 06:38

This TRA should be charged with wasting police time. (And crimes against photoshopping judging by the twitter photo)

Molokonono · 29/09/2018 06:44

This TDA [Trans demands activist - yup] - is this the one with the numerous companies that they keep closing so that they never have to show their accounts or declare income to the government?

TurfClub · 29/09/2018 06:48

yes that's the one Molokonono. It's illegal wot they are doing, an offence, but from what I can see they use a different login/account each time, and many different addresses, so presumably doesn't get automatically flagged among the 00,000s of companies incorporated each year.

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CrackpotsArePots · 29/09/2018 06:51

Excellent!

It's out there now.

CrackpotsArePots · 29/09/2018 06:52

And thank you (again) the journalist Lucy Bannerman

TimeLady · 29/09/2018 06:52

Well done, Graham, for speaking out away from the twittersphere. And thanks again to Lucy Bannerman - The Times has a crack team of reporters covering these issues now.

Molokonono · 29/09/2018 06:56

So presumably now that the Times has investigated and found that this TDA is not recognised by any legal body, we can safely say they are not a lawyer?

Probably not the outcome they were after.

I suspect more testeric rage this weekend then. Should be fun.

On a completely separated and unrelated matter: Does anyone know how to report fraud to companies house? Asking for a friend.

TurfClub · 29/09/2018 07:11

"So presumably now that the Times has investigated and found that this TDA is not recognised by any legal body, we can safely say they are not a lawyer?"

Well if you look at the 'Rollonfriday' article, I think lawyers are normally very anti-Walter Mitty (fake lawyers), but in this case they seem to be quite sympathetic.

As I understand it, Stephanie is a 'lawyer' in that 'lawyer' is not a protected term, and does seem to spend quite a long time playing at one. So it's like saying 'I'm a computer programmer', if you program computers, then you are one, there's no qualification needed.

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HamiltonCork · 29/09/2018 07:20

Maybe she just identifies as being a lawyer?

Floisme · 29/09/2018 07:21

Stephanie identifies as a lawyer - what’s the problem?
Thank you again Graham, and you too Lucy Bannerman. Be careful out there.

Floisme · 29/09/2018 07:22

God dammit I thought I’d got there first Grin

BlardyBlar · 29/09/2018 07:23

I was shocked when I read the Terfclub thread about S Hayden, which was seriously damning. Yet another transitioner with multiple past names and an apparently troublesome history.

Delighted to see it in the Times. Presumably they have investigated the allegations on both sides and drawn their conclusions.

I had SH blocked as there seemed to be a doxxing risk. So many of the more extreme campaigners seem really unpleasant.

NotTerfNorCis · 29/09/2018 07:27

If someone claims to be a programmer, the assumption would be that they were professional. Anyone with no practical experience or qualifications who advertised themselves as a programmer would be lucky to land a junior role.

The fact that Stephanie took patronising praise from a judge that that are a 'real lawyer' as their only proof of being a lawyer says it all. That's what a kindly judge would say to a needy amateur who has read up on some niche area of law.

KatVonGulag · 29/09/2018 07:27

How many identities does one person need?

This is shocking.

KatVonGulag · 29/09/2018 07:28

And thanks Graham for your bravery.

ArrivisteRevolt · 29/09/2018 07:51

Lawyer is someone who practices law - it can include academics.

What does SH do all day, for a job?

RepealtheGRA · 29/09/2018 07:51

Well done Lucy. Well done Graham and well done all the times readers.

I see Leeds is once again at the centre of this ever increasing steaming pile of bull crap.

TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 29/09/2018 08:05

Am I right in thinking you can't call yourself a solicitor or barrister or doctor without the relevant qualifications? Interesting that lawyer isn't covered.

Unfortunately there are plenty of other professions in the UK that don't have that protection. Counsellor/therapist/psychologist is one where there is the capacity to do significant harm if one doesn't have relevant training and supervision. Accountant is unregulated. You can't call yourself a chartered or certified accountant but anybody can say they are an accountant, even if they'd struggle to add two and two.

Good article, thank goodness for The Times.

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 29/09/2018 08:07

A little Father Ted clip for those who have trouble distinguishing perception from reality

LizzieSiddal · 29/09/2018 08:12

I was shocked when I read the Terfclub thread about S Hayden, which was seriously damning. Yet another transitioner with multiple past names and an apparently troublesome history.

Yes, and the powers that be need to be aware that Self ID will make this problem, many times worse.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 29/09/2018 08:13

Comments are heartening. I've seen the Baby Lawyer on twitter and they are good at what they do (attack, wail 'poor me, no fair', insult, outrageous claims...). Obviously someone with far too much time on their hands.

Floisme · 29/09/2018 08:17

If I recall correctly, ‘solicitor’ and ‘barrister’ are strictly speaking the correct titles in the UK, whereas ‘lawyer’ is an American term so maybe it doesn’t have any professional protection here.

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